The Conmen - Twisting The Truth

I am pleased to see Gyani Pinder Pal Singh Ji's name on Harbans Ji's list. I am a great fan of his. Unlike other Katha vaachaks and Ragis, he does not do any play-acting and his fluent katha seems to come from the heart.
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I think one day he will be regarded as an equal (if not better) of Maskin Ji and other greats in his line of work. When in Delhi last time, I picked up 4 of his books from the Sis Ganj bookshop and hope to the same next week when we are in Delhi. I pray he does not do anything in the future to tarnish his image.

Rajinder Singh 'Arshi'
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I couldn't agree with you more Arshi. Very well put. We are beings of such limited perspective attempting to encapsulate an infinite truth, with mere words. Of course most of us don't realize our true purpose for the human life form. I learned yesterday that a dog has 75% the exact same genetic makeup as a human; and a daffodil has 25% the exact same. Isn't this beautiful? Our consciousness' are so different from those plants and animals who share such a similar genetic make up. From this we should see that our purpose is not to be superior beings in this primitive food chain, but to ensure we beautify the world around us with compassion, selflessness, and truth- on our journey towards unification with the divine. Every traveling soul is always within the Divine Waheguru; As we are blessed with a higher consciousness, we are blessed with ability to reunify. This is why our human life should be so dearly valued by us. It is the greatest gift your soul has ever received. Reunify my friends.

-Amrit

sach sahbna da khasam hai jis bakhsa jo jan pabai,we talk about other people that are taking help of sri guru granth sahib ji bani but on the other hand sikh scholars themself indulge in such a controversy that we have to think wheather they r scholars or have doubts on bani of 10 gurus and saints

Roop singh ji has made some pertinent observations.

The popular saying “too many chiefs and not enough Indians” applies to our scholarly class – these days nearly everyone is a scholar - cut and paste and lo and behold you are a scholar.

I remember when we emigrated to Kenya in February/ March 1951, having done three standards in a village school - where I learnt all my tables (20 x 20 + main fractions x 20) through muharni (oral recital) first thing every morning - I was admitted into the Fourth Standard in Nairobi. Soul Joyt Ji, a blessed soul and a regular contributor to this forum, would remember, as we were in the same school and the same year, that students coming from India were demoted and I, luckily, through the sheer determination of my mother and some private tuition was able to pass the entry test to the Fourth Standard. Having come from a village background, where we wrote on wooden boards and slates, the provision of exercise books was a great novelty. Freshly printed text books and writing books would yield an aroma hitherto unknown to a village lad.

The exercise books provided by the school or bought from DL Patel stationers carried on the front page the ID information as follows:

Scholar’s name:
Standard:
Subject:

Although the dictionary provides several meanings of the term scholar (reproduced below) to me it means a student.

Dictionary Meaning:
1. One who attends school or studies with a teacher; a student
2. A learned person.
3. A specialist in a given branch of knowledge: a classical scholar. 4 A student who holds or has held a particular scholarship.

Most, so called, scholars know only a little more than the rest of us and, therefore, we must not take what they say as gospel. The actual expanse of knowledge is vast and limitless – even if we were to be born a million times and undertake as many university courses, our knowledge will still not show on the Map of Knowledge. This is why Humility in the House of Nanak is the ultimate goal of a seeker.

One well known figure, a Hindu priest, pandit astrologer and an occasional broadcaster in Kenya used to say behind closed doors:

Dunya wich bewfkoof ziyadaa ney par bewkoof banaun valaey ghat.
There are a lot more fools in the world but only a few who can fool others.

Much as I like and respect kirtaniyaas and parcharaks for their skills and knowledge, most of them do not have my true respect. Many make boasts similar to that of the egotistic pandit mentioned above. My main concern is that we must not allow one or two persons to dictate to the entire Sikh Panth – to hold the entire nation to ransom Imperfect as our leadership may be, but they do come from amongst our ranks and reflect our collective spiritual state of affairs today. It is true that our Spiritual leadership is corrupt and under the influence of politicians but so is our priestly class, made up of greedy and egotistic raagis, parcharks and katha vaachaks. There are of course, always, exceptions

We must resolve to make sure that the individuals at the helm (Akal Takht and other Takhts) are first class honourable individuals with immaculate credentials and integrity. This would take time but taking sides without knowing the Truth is distorting – twisting - the Truth. This is why it is so important that the media, including our esteemed SPN, must try and play a neutral role in sensitive situations.
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Humbly

Rajinder Singh ‘Arshi’

SPN jis!
So glad to read (for once!) the practitioners of a Religion - any Religion! - being so wise as to do a little introspection! The case of the poor old Catholic Church getting sued for 1.5 BILLION Dollars - and why they got sued! - come to mind; but then I'm an EX 'one of those', and my own comments on the subject have drawn to me a great deal of hubbub - and more! - just because the lawsuit (apparently) didn't teach them enough about not retaliating against those who DARE to Question.
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Thank You! As always, a refreshing experience, SPN.
BTW; Have you ever heard of the Man who sold the Brooklyn Bridge to some new in town sap? It's the origin of the English expression of contempt (for ones gullibility) that goes, "Well, if you liked THAT, then I've got a Bridge that you might be interested in......"