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Old 25-Jul-2012, 10:44 AM
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Thank you for the help Luckysingh-ji
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I'm still a little confused though, I still don't get why Guru Nanak is who we should go to for a guide and protection.. I know you've tried to explain this but I still don't understand, it sounds like you're saying he can protect us but I thought the Ek Onkar was the only one with any power to pray to for protection against things.
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Sorry if I'm being a little bit of a challenge, I know sometimes questions like this aren't easily answered. I appreciate the help
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Thank you for the help Luckysingh-ji

I'm still a little confused though, I still don't get why Guru Nanak is who we should go to for a guide and protection.. I know you've tried to explain this but I still don't understand, it sounds like you're saying he can protect us but I thought the Ek Onkar was the only one with any power to pray to for protection against things.

Sorry if I'm being a little bit of a challenge, I know sometimes questions like this aren't easily answered. I appreciate the help
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No problem, my response and suggestion was for those 'narrow minded fake baba followers' and believe me there are millions!!

I did try to make clear that the suggestion of Guru Nanak for them was because they won't buy anything about their fake baba being a con and fake, -BUT they WILL listen to an ALTERNATIVE.- Hence what better then to suggest they use BABA NANAK's picture or necklace as their protector.
The ''alternative'' is the only way to get through to these narrow minded converts, as they won't accept anything that has not been human or person at one time.

For people not under the baba convert category, then all you need is faith in the ONE Supreme Almighty. (not human like us!!)

Hope that clarifies a little.
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Re: Omens, bad spirits, was bani say about it

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Just quickly, I think a 'fake baba follower' is going to relate to Guru Nanak the same way they relate to their fake baba. By giving them a picture of Guru Nanak instead, I feel it cheapens Guru Nanak and could create or perpetuate a belief that simply carrying a picture of a Guru Sahib will bring one protection.
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There is no supernatural protection. The only protection one has is to beg for Naam. It is all hukam.
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A very good point Ishnaji, I didn't at all think about that, as you know.
I will take that statement back to extinguish.
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I'm not even sure how it all stemmed that way but it started on me commenting about someone else's post!!!

In a way, I'm glad it was mentioned, as I have learnt something valuable!!
Although when I penned it down, I did sense that something may be wrong but couldn't quite pin point it-
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The worst kind of spirits are the 5 vices within us. And every time we listen to them is a bad omen! Let our surat (thinking) be dissolved in complete Simran (remembrance) of Waheguru, so that these 5 thieves can't touch us!
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Out of interest why do you say Guru Nanak protects you..? I thought the Gurus were only human and that Waheguru is the only one who can protect us from anything if He so wills.
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Lucky Ji...good one that...

The fake baba gives out "designer drugs" (purreehean he makes himslef )..so what we do..
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We dish out "Placebo drugs" (baba nanak picture/tweet/medallion/stauette etc)....what a solution..ha ha ha Had a really good laugh..gingerteakaurgingerteakaurgingerteakaurging erteakaurgingerteakaur
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