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06-Jul-2012, 00:40 AM
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Originally Posted by harry haller  Veerji
These are pointless arguments, Creator is Creator, regardless of what you, or anyone else calls it.
This is a similar situation to front line soldiers debating the middle name of the King. It is irrelevant, we are here to do a job, live a life as per Hukam, names mean nothing. Names are for tombstones baby! (quoted from live and let die  ) | Respected khalsa ji ,
I would like to point out that please dont consider my thread as an argument. Consider it as a question of a technical nature. And we know there must be answer to any and all questions technical, emotional , or differential point of views.
The thing i am seeking is to get a HISTORICAL reference of the WORD waheguru. Because the very first words of my guru granth sahib are ek onkar satnam.
so if i am p๔sting my lifes question to god even though i know i can call him anything but still i prefer to address my words of request on the right address. And i consider the words of Guru Nanak as giving me the right address of god. But there is little confusion about two words. Because one word is surely that came out of guru nanak jis own mouth ่k onkar `why he didnt say waheguru. That is an intriguing question for me .
And regarding creator i believe if i start worshipping my parents i am worshipping god himself. So i mean i am seeking a real historical reference and not generalised theoratical answers Got anything to share on This Topic? Why not share your immediate thoughts/reaction with us! Login Now! or Sign Up Today! to share your views... Gurfateh! | | The following member appreciates sajsikh Ji for the above message. | |
06-Jul-2012, 01:20 AM
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Good luck to you brother, I hope you have an enjoyable quest. |
06-Jul-2012, 10:52 AM
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Max Arthur MacAuliffe makes a few references to 'Wahguru' (take note of the spelling) in The Sikh Religion volume 1, available here: http://www.sacred-texts.com/skh/tsr1/index.htm
You'll have to do a CTRL-F and search for the word 'Wah' on each page until you find the references - I can't remember exactly which chapters they're in.
However the references appear in some rather unusual sakhis and I'm suspicious of the reality of the stories, and consequently the references.
Go to www.srigranth.org and search the transliteration for the word 'vah' - very interesting reading. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/questions-and-answers/38732-what-name-god-per-sikhism-ek.html
You can also search the transliteration for the word 'vahguru' for 3 references, but not by Guru Nanak ji. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=38732
I agree with Harry ji that the actual name of the creative force is not important. It is beyond names. There is no 'one true name'.
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06-Jul-2012, 14:10 PM
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06-Jul-2012, 14:49 PM
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Having said that a particular name is not important, I can see how it becomes a real question. Bani mentions Naam constantly. Chant Naam, remember Naam, Naam is Nanak's only support, etc. It is translated as 'name' literally. That is indeed the meaning of the word 'Naam'. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=38732
In the Sikh case, Naam refers to awareness of the creative force. It is beyond names and beyond description. Even to say It is beyond description is an injustice! Recognising And cultivating awareness of the Truth is what Naam is. Maintaining that awareness is simran. As is my very limited understanding. I hope that helps. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=38732
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07-Jul-2012, 01:33 AM
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If you sit and think about Waheguru, will he not listen to your thoughts? | | The following members appreciate Kanwaljit Singh Ji for the above message. | |
07-Jul-2012, 06:15 AM
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07-Jul-2012, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Kanwaljit Singh If you sit and think about Waheguru, will he not listen to your thoughts? | Well, I don't get a direct reply to prove it, I'm more than certain he listens to not just my inner voice but my feelings and wishes are all picked up and acknowledged.
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07-Jul-2012, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Ishna The Jyot within you will listen. | I admire that reply as it speaks much more, to my understanding.
I won't repeat myself here, but I have mentioned my interpretation and just a little understanding to the terms 'jyot swaroop' and 'naam' in the following threads.
Have a read and see what you make of this slight emphasis on these referred terms. http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/gurmat...-simran-4.html
and also http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-s...-abhiyaas.html
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