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15-Feb-2012, 12:45 PM
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There is a wonderful article in the Rozana Spokesman magazine today...SIKHO..DONT TURN your REAL HISTORY into MYTH...
Its an UNDENIABLE FACT that the HINDU religions is 99.9% Based on MYTHS..we have 33 KROR Devis and Devtas gallivanting all over chasing maidens, churning the oceans using mountains....firing fire arrows and doinh disappearing acts, floating on waters, walking on clouds, sitting on cold mountain peaks etc etc etc..you name it..Hinduism has GOT IT. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/questions-and-answers/38047-are-these-quotations-real.html
SIKHISM is ROCK SOLID HISTORY BASED FACT.
Myth: Bhagat Prehlaad was afraid of getting "burnt"..the Creator turned into an ant and crawled on the RED HOT PILLAR of IRON to show it was "COOL".....Bhagat Prehlaad lived on...nothing happened to his body..or any sign of burns etc.. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=38047
FACT" Guru Arjun ji was asked to sit on the Red Hot Plate..He did seat himself..had hot burning sand poured all over him..was boiled in a pot of boiling water..etc etc...and his physical Body ahd boils, burns serious enough to KILL Him.
Fact" Guru teg bahdur Ji ahd his head cut off in Chandni chowk...
Bhais had their bodies SAWN into two halves, wrapped in cotton, soaked in oil and set on fire..had themsleves placed in a huge pot and boiled alive like a potato...Bhai mati Dass died after being sawed alive, Bhai Sati dass died after being burnt alive, Bhai dyala died after being boiled alive...
MYTH" Hinduisms Kalyug is a monster demon with huge teeth fangs etc..Gurbanis Kalyug is NOTHING...Guru Ji says its MAN whos at FAULT..not so called kalyug or satyug or dwapur Yug etc..
MYTH CANNOT BE REPLICATED?REPEATED becasue its MYTH..it never happened...as such NO HINDU can get an "ant" to CRAWL on a red hot pillar as is said in the Prehlaad myth....
BUT SOLID HISTORY can be copied..in fact its a FACT that history repeats itself..over and over...and SIKHS have
COPIED EXACTLY what their GURUS DID....achieving Martyrdom like warriors..even CHILDREN as YOUNG as 7 getting bricked up alive ratehr than surrender their religion....1947, 1965, 1971, 1984...and all over the world...SIKHS continue to LIVE and DIE as FACT....fearless of DEATH..as their factual GURUS showed by Example.
MYTH: Can any Hindu fire "fire" arrows..or make elephants fly..or disappear and appear at will throughout the Galaxy...or chase their own daughters all over the Milky way just to satisfy their lust..or move the Himalayas into the Indian Ocean and CHURN it to make Amrit ??..or collect all the monkeys in India and fight the Chinese Hordes waiting in Arunachal pardesh, Aksai chin or the kargill Glaciers ?? Why do we need SIKH Soldiers there when we can have monkeys setting fire to Beijing ???
WHY NOT ?? why spend billions on modern weapons and all those airplanes, etc... http://rozanaspokesman.com/fullpage....ew=15&pview=16 Got anything to share on This Topic? Why not share your immediate thoughts/reaction with us! Login Now! or Sign Up Today! to share your views... Gurfateh!
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Kabir says..Where Gyaan Knowledge is present..so is Dharma religion...in places where Jhooth-False/untruth resides..there resides Paap-distance form Him..Where LOBH- greed avarice resides its accompanied by Kaal DEATH of conscience.where there is abundance of Forgiveness, compassion..there resides HE HIMSELF. | | The following members appreciate Gyani Jarnail Singh Ji for the above message. | |
15-Feb-2012, 14:41 PM
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What can we deduce from all these fantastic stories? Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=38047
that God is all powerful. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=38047
Maybe people of the time could not understand such a simple statement, thus the need for 1 story, and then another story, and countless stories,
stories became myth, myth became fact, but the distance grows between a man and a superman, (or woman), Each and every one of us can achieve the knowledge of the Gurus because they were not supermen, they were normal men, with normal physical strength, and the same brain we have, they bled, they became ill, they died, but what they did with their lives was superhuman, and we each have that ability to emulate our Gurus | | The following members appreciate harry haller Ji for the above message. | |
15-Feb-2012, 18:59 PM
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But Harry Ji..those tall tales and myths are so interesting..so fascinating..so ENTERTAINING...no brain power needed..just close ones eyes and listen..and go to sleep...like counting sheep....BUT trying to follow the Gurus Footsteps..follow his teachings..is not only difficult and boring..its also a Health hazard..one may have to give up ones beloved LIFE...like Bhai mati dass...or Bhai sati dass. You see Bhai sati dass ji DIDNOT have the luxury of having a Bhua called HOLIKA who would be BURNED in his place..Bhai SATI DASS had t BURN HIS OWN BODY....now who wants to do THAT..its bloo.dy PAINFUL MAN...most would ratehr beleive ina Holika bhua/massi/devi etc taking the HEAT...thats why people hanker over these empty tales..as they say EMPTY DRUMS sound loudest..its the EMPTY BRAHMGYANIS/SRI 108, s/Mahapurashs who love these empty tales to entertain while they MINT MONEY....GURBANI is Boring/dry/and highly necessary to have brains... | | The following member appreciates Gyani Jarnail Singh Ji for the above message. | |
24-Apr-2012, 22:05 PM
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@Ambarsaria Sorry for the much-too-long-but-necessary delay. Your "solution" would be much more workable if
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=38047
1. There was a real Gurdwara here in Israel (I'm told there's one in Tel-Aviv, but have yet to successfully track it down - maybe someone can give me an introduction to Navtej Singh Sarna, India's Ambassador to Israel?).
2. If I wasn't a very visible religious Jew - which would create no small amount of social problems if I were to be seen entering a place like a Gurdwara.
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3. If I wasn't already immersed in this life, with extensive family commitments spanning three generations.
Many thanks for your concern, though, and for your friendship - both of which make the situation somewhat less lonely. It may be that there is no actual solution, pending Guru's nadar ... |
24-Apr-2012, 22:24 PM
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a Hindu/Sikh would probabaly be a Judaeo/Christian....
| When you have a headache what does it matter what the brand name isfor the painkiller ,what matters is the Generic or chemical name for Religion which is Truth.
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24-Apr-2012, 23:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Kamala  Dude, what the heck, I'm just asking for these quotes being real or not, you guys are going off topic, please delete those posts. | In Gurbanee these quotations are to be taken as real there can be no question on this........but the references of the quotes are no where refered as GOD as you envisage.
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25-Apr-2012, 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Kamala What the, I'm just asking if these quotes are real. To all you people saying they don't exist the guru ji even talks about it. | As others have noted your quotes are incomplete.
Here's one important missing bit at the end: sree guroo raaj abichal attal aadh purakh furamaaeiou
The sovereign rule of the Great Guru is unchanging and permanent, according the Command of the Primal Lord God
My interpretation is that Onkar has gone by many names, and humans have personified Onkar throughout the ages in various ways, but ultimately all there is is Ek Onkar | | The following member appreciates Seeker9 Ji for the above message. | | 
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