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View Poll Results: What does Mukti/salvation (ਮੁਕਤੀ) mean to you as a Sikh? | |
Freedom from cycle of birth and death
|    | 3 | 33.33% | |
Killing of five thieves
|    | 3 | 33.33% | |
Merging with Akal Purakh/ਅਕਾਲ ਪੁਰਖ/ Timeless Creator
|    | 6 | 66.67% | |
Other, please explain
|    | 2 | 22.22% | 
23-Jan-2012, 07:58 AM
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| | | | | Re: What does salvation / Mukti (ਮੁਕਤੀ) mean to you as a Sikh? Quote:
Originally Posted by Ambarsaria Salvation is much cherished goal sought by many in various religions. Throughout many threads people have expressed great desire to reach a state of salvation. This is based on the assumption or belief that we are higher life form born as humans and it is our duty and goall as well as only chance to do so.
There are many words and phrases that are used to describe the aspects of ਮੁਕਤੀ/salvation. Following are some examples, - Freedom from cycle of birth and death
- Escape from the 8,400,000 varieties of life forms and being born again into one
- Killing of five thieves
- ਕਾਮ ਕ੍ਰੋਧ ਲੋਭ ਮੋਹ ਹੰਕਾਰ । / Lust, Anger, Greed, Attachment, Ego
- Control of Five thieves
- Merging with Akal Purakh/ਅਕਾਲ ਪੁਰਖ/ Timeless Creator
- Our ਜੋਤ/Light with the creator’s ਜੋਤ/Light (sometimes referred to as ਪ੍ਰਭ ਜੋਤ/ Creator’s light)
- Other
What you think and what is the one that you believe in? Participate in the poll and if you believe in more than one choice do multiple choices as it is allowed in the poll.
Sat Sri Akal. | A great question Ambarsaria ji,
Mukti and liberation means different to all of us. It may have shades of colors as nicely summed up by you in your posts. It requires no reiteration. Liberation , to me , has some specific connotations. It is believed that Mukti is the state when one is dead when alive and has no Haume and has overcome lower passions and has developed higher virtues with His grace. It may be life time practice culminating into that we may ordinarily call 'Salvation'. One lives for others and has little interest in self welfare as one has left oneself to be taken care of by the Almighty. It may be high sounding, but it is the way I feel and try to practice. In sense I am with you, Gyani ji and Harry ji and others like navdeep88 ji.
I am also aware that salvation is also to be obtained by 'Simran' as well that is the only mode available to keep 'self- connect'. 'Simran' is also a life time affair. It is with great efforts and patience that one attains this. It is why I call 'Akhan Aukha Sacha nao'. It shall come to one who really feels the need of it. One may not carve out the need. I was not bothered about this about 2 years back. But now it has become an integral part of my life.
One need not be bothered about the results. It is a means of progression in life culminating into self perfection and finally absorption with the super consciousness. It is my idea of Mukti or liberation.
But does it really matter?
If my living is truthful and I do that is to be done I am not bothered at the end. Rest is His grace and Nadar. It is upto Him. It is not my business and I do not do any Ardas of any kind ; He knows everything...
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25-Jan-2012, 03:04 AM
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| | | | | Re: What does Salvation/Mukti (ਮੁਕਤੀ) mean to You as a Sikh? Mukhti to me is a release from the wrath from senile, hateful old men... who feel they're in a position to put you in this box or that...who shamelessly insult others, with the intent of hurting their heart... pffft, thats right Ambarsaria, I'm talking to you. | 
25-Jan-2012, 03:08 AM
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| | | | | Re: What does Salvation/Mukti (ਮੁਕਤੀ) mean to You as a Sikh? The following may be of some use to you, coincidently it just came out today... | 
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| | | | | Re: What does Salvation/Mukti (ਮੁਕਤੀ) mean to You as a Sikh? Quote:
Originally Posted by Navdeep88 Mukhti to me is a release from the wrath from senile, hateful old men... who feel they're in a position to put you in this box or that...who shamelessly insult others, with the intent of hurting their heart... pffft, thats right Ambarsaria, I'm talking to you. | Sorry Navdeep88 ji if it hurt you but a dead child lying in front of parents just is not a place to say it happens everywhere. At least that is how I feel. Such passion in such situations is my weakness and it perhaps has little chance of remedying itself.
Your insulting is OK if it makes you feel better, I am happy for you. I will not respond in kind no more perhaps it was a mistake when I originally did. Let us part where we disagree as the world is not about you or me going back and forth.peacesign
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| | | | | Re: What does Salvation/Mukti (ਮੁਕਤੀ) mean to You as a Sikh? I have seen LOTS of "sikhs" who do lots of simran...of NIRBHAU....but on their wrists they tie RED strings ( they are AFRAID of certain shaktees/powers/bad spirits/evil ??? didnt quite become NIRBHAU !!)...then again many do simran of NIRVAIR..but will BITE OFF THE HEAD of anyone doing tiny bit of "criticism"...like Dhadrianwallh exploded at Babbu mann for singing Ek baba nanak See...so didnt quite become NIRVAIR either...this is parrotting..not simran if it ahs no effect on you..Kabir calls this Rirrking Water to get GHEE....ha ha no amount of rirrking water will get ghee or even GREASE  .......... | | The following members appreciate Gyani Jarnail Singh Ji for the above message. | | 
25-Jan-2012, 10:32 AM
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| | | | | Re: What does Salvation/Mukti (ਮੁਕਤੀ) mean to You as a Sikh? Admin Warning: Dear All, if you do not have anything to add to the discussion, then simply refrain from posting at all... Thank you!Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/questions-and-answers/37913-what-does-salvation-mukti-mean-you.html
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25-Jan-2012, 10:39 AM
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| | | | | Re: What does Salvation/Mukti (ਮੁਕਤੀ) mean to You as a Sikh? Aman Singh Ji,
This man personally and volatiley insulted me, thats not OK! He went way off the issue... all with some stupid assumption about how I was apathetic, when all He needed to do was scroll up and SEE my original response to that picture, it wasnt exactly apathetic. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37913Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37913
But I suppose that totally ok, some people can speak to others however they want, take a jab at them however shamelessly, and it will be tolerated? really? I had no idea this was what this forum was about? I didn't know it was an accepted practice here to STOMP on others... that's anti-Sikh. you're not supposed to go around pillaging others under any circumstance...
Goodday!
I think the folowing should be added to forum rules:
Some members can speak to others hatefully, can insult them in every way possible all with the assumption that they know who they are... and that is tolerated. accepted practice...
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| | | | | Re: What does Salvation/Mukti (ਮੁਕਤੀ) mean to You as a Sikh? Actually I've decided that all of what Ambarsaria Ji said in the other posts, I will discard it b/c according to him I was written off for life, useless, heartless... all this without ever having met me, without knowing me personally. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37913Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37913
with every hurt, every loss, this heart's gonna get stronger. thank you for my most recent hurt.kudihug | | The following member appreciates Navdeep88 Ji for the above message. | | 
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| | | | | Re: What does Salvation/Mukti (ਮੁਕਤੀ) mean to You as a Sikh? mundahug That's the spirit Navdeep ji. Give others some space for their behaviour whether desirable or undesirable. When negative emotions arise give them space to be. Speak out but with that space. Mukti is this space when it encapsulates everything that arises. You become this space, grow as this space. In this space all births and deaths are dissolved, all thieves are dissolved, one becomes the all-encapsulating space that is God. | 
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