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24-Jul-2012, 16:34 PM
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It is important that they learn to read (like a non-Punjabi person). And they can listen to the bani in the meantime: Section Six of the SGPC Sikh Rehat Marjada:You are supposed to know Gurmukhi (Punjabi alphabet). (If you do not, you must learn it). And recite, or listen in to the recitation of, the under mentioned scriptural compositions, the daily repetition of which is ordained, every day : 1) The Japuji Sahib, (2) The Jaap Sahib, (3) The Ten Sawayyas (Quartrains), beginning "sarawag sudh", (4) The Sodar Rahiras and the Sohila. Besides, you should read from or listen in to the recitation from the Guru Granth Sahib .
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24-Jul-2012, 18:43 PM
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NIT means DAILY..all the time..NEM means DISCIPLINE..rehat maryada..rules..laws..routines.. regulations..etc etc etc...
Its definitley NOT just the parrotting as fast as possible the Banis normally called Nitnem.. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37768
My Nitnem..is LIVING GURBANI...so First thing i do morning is THANK WAHEGURU for another Day..another DAILY LIFE's WOTRK...then have my bath..etc all in the SAME ORDER..disciplien..rehat..rules..regualtions as i said..TIME TABLES used in schools, offices, banks, airports etc are examples of NITNEM...the SUN RISES every morning..the MOON every evening..the Earth Spins on its axis..EVERYTHING IS NITNEM...you will never find the SUN missing a Day..or the Moon taking a day off..call in sick...???
Then I begin LIFE of GURBANI..EK OANGKAAR..dwell on HIM..SATNAM..be as TRUTHFUL in my dealings as much as possible..Be Nirbhau..Nirvaer..etc etc etc... Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37768
The trouble with sikhs today is they have fallen into a RUT so deep they ritualise everything...from Bath times to reading mechanically..mechanical viists to gurdwars, matha tek, take parshaad eat langgar go home...just rotating like fans in the wind... etc..NITNEM is NOT like that..its a PRACTICAL LESSON on HOW TO LIVE DAILY according to GURBANI...  | | The following members appreciate Gyani Jarnail Singh Ji for the above message. | |
25-Jul-2012, 02:49 AM
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Very nice explanation.
But, my concern is the bani's that are to be read as part of rehat.
Wether some one reads them or not out of choice is a different issue. My concern is the people that are unable to read so they are unable to carry out this task.
Do they get exempt during the ceremony as some have claimed ? Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37768Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37768
-I find it difficult to believe that the panj piarey can simply say 'do waheguru simran if you can't read'
I mean me, personally I'm sure that I would make plenty of effort before the ceremony in correcting my vocab and reading skills!!
We can't just have the ceremony or amrit sanchar 'mould' around us to suit us, can we ? |
25-Jul-2012, 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Luckysingh  Very nice explanation.
But, my concern is the bani's that are to be read as part of rehat.
Wether some one reads them or not out of choice is a different issue. My concern is the people that are unable to read so they are unable to carry out this task.
Do they get exempt during the ceremony as some have claimed ?
-I find it difficult to believe that the panj piarey can simply say 'do waheguru simran if you can't read'
I mean me, personally I'm sure that I would make plenty of effort before the ceremony in correcting my vocab and reading skills!!
We can't just have the ceremony or amrit sanchar 'mould' around us to suit us, can we ? | The Bottom line is "TRY"...we must all TRY....and the lengths we are willing to go..on..trying..are limited by our own selves...no one else. IF we are uneducated..we can LISTEN and Memorize..(unless we are DEAF and MUTE too)..or BLIND...etc.. As I said..SIKHI is an EDUCATION SYSTEM and we are all students...and as in Normal school system..NOT everyone achieves a PHD..or Pinnacle of Nobel Prize !! Each has his own standard...and we cannot generalise...The ONLY really deaf, dumb, mute, blind are those that REFUSE...to hear, speak, see....There are U tube videos showing ARMLESS persons working harder than those with FOUR ARMS (durga devi)...there are persons without LEGS being Olympians..while eight legged ones are couch potatoes...(cockroaches) | | The following member appreciates Gyani Jarnail Singh Ji for the above message. | |
25-Jul-2012, 05:51 AM
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I relate a tale i heard from a sikh who came across one such "pyara"...
This man is in a wheelchair and paralysed waist down. He works at a car park as parking attendant. At age 30+ he met and fell in love with a Sikh Woman and BOTH decided to become Amrtidharee. They wnet to a prominent local Gurdwara Pardhaan cum head Panj Pyara etc etc for some premarital advice. The pardhaan called them in to the room where there were several others present and the first question he put was..OH so you both wnat to get married, chhak amrit and be amritdharee ?/ But tell me young man...could you even pull open the Naalla (string ) of your kachera unaided ?? The Couple of course were deeply mebarassed and rolled the wheelchair right out. So we DO have such Pyaras among the ones we may meet at our amrit snachaar who might very well take it as under their vested powers to EXEMPT or question..or use their discretion..whatever.. BTW the couple did chhak amrit and are practising amritdharees but dont have any children... | | The following member appreciates Gyani Jarnail Singh Ji for the above message. | | 
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