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Harry Veer Ji, A Sikh cannot be atheist he has to have the belief in One God that is essential.But he should have no pride and become nothing then he will realise if lucky,while you see others you are being decieved, as they are actually you, thats why when you do good, it makes you feel good ,as Selfless service is to serve OneSelf.
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It all depends on your ultimate goals I suppose, it is essential for a sikh to believe in god for his own redemption, to save himself, and as Leeji stated, that relationship with god, and the concern about each individuals soul, to some sikhs, outweighs everything else in its importance. We place a lot of weight on loss of pride and the becoming of nothing, I feel this is a very dangerous road to travel. I do not believe that sikhism wants us to vanquish pride, or become nothing, I think these are ultimate goals that serve no other purpose than the aversion to pride.
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Pride is to say 'I am better than you', Aversion is to say 'You are better than me', humility is to say 'no one is better, we are all individuals, and I am best at being me, and you are best at being you',

Do you know one of the ways to get more of something, whilst having no reliance on it, to be satisfied with what you have, and not chase the dragon? , to stop looking for it!

I think if you carry out every action, and every thought, on the basis that is being noted down somewhere for final analysis and eventual enlightenment, than this is not living, life becomes another exam, a test to pass, the enlightenment test, and all the time life is rushing past, I worry about the desire to better ourselves, stops us living. Some might say this post is a step backwards for me, I disagree, this is not something we can just play at, this is very real, and it is happening here, and right now, and you either have to give it your best in the right direction, but as you, in all your honesty, or carry on making the same mistakes, and live out your enlightened state in forums!

Ugly ducklings do not change into swans by thinking about it, or meditating, or prayer, one day it just happens, normally when the duckling is ready for life as a swan, with us, it could take lifetimes, we just need to be prepared, packed, and ready, instead of wasting time dreaming of life as a swan, we must also enjoy life as a duckling
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I'm pretty sure people can change with conscious effort or experience. Every once in a great while we hear of it happening with former gang members, or parents who have to mature for the sake of their children.

Absolutly spot on Annie ji.

Freewill or freedom of choice is very real, we all have ultimate control over our choices. Good or bad is choice.
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