Serving of Meat in Langar by Guru Angad Sahib Ji?

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Gyani ji, We are bit on the peaceful side and find those creation story attractive. The warriors who like swords find their own creation stories attractive. Through this story they give importance to the Khanda.

You know the Khanda is created first but used last in battle. When one loses his horse and is forced to fight on foot, the khanda is pulled out. The Khanda is the weapon of the "last stand".

Warriors live in a different environment (namely battlefield) than us normal folks. Their life and death comes from a weapon. If you go beyond these words and feel the emotion...
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Agam agochar at vada, Atul na tulia jai

Thank you for the viakhya of the sakhi.

That site contains all these stories that I read as child. These books are so common in gurudwaras. They are based on oral tradition of stories that contain some historical truth but are more geared towards showing that the Guru is in fact a Guru and should be listened to. The importance of mythology and miracles in reaching the common man, throughout history, should be valued. The stories should be read with an open mind. There is no need to label them as 'this' or 'that'. They just are.

In Sikh Histories it is mentioned

1) SatGur Nanak took Animal meat (Vension)
2) SatGur Angad took Animal meat (Mutton)
3) SatGur Amardass took Animal meat(fish)
4) SatGur Hargobind took Animal meat
5) SatGur Gobind Singh ate Animal meat

Other satGurus too took plant life and used plant meat for food.
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All in all satgurus took life of plants and animals for their food.

Hardip Singh ji did you know Iranian leader of revolution, Ayatollah Khomeini came from Punjab and at one time was a Sikh! I don't know if it is an urban legend though!

Sat Sri Akal.

Plant meat ? a new term for me !
पादप मांस? मेरे लिए नए से शब्द हैं?
भारत के लुटेरों की भाषा में नीचे लिखना पड़ रहा है ।
(Plant meat ? a new term for me !)

Atul ji, Soya Beans perhaps closest to meat in terms of protein.

Vegetarianism is said to be by meat eaters as, "You are eating the food, that my food eats".

This thread needs to be merged with "Fools who Wrangle over Flesh" as we are going to end up covering whether meat is allowed or not.

By the way there are experiments in advanced stages that they can grow meat artificially without the animals. Then I think this debate will rest.Or may be Veggans are going to find some other arguments against that, but that is fair enough. To each their own.

Just my thoughts.

Sat Sri Akal.

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ਪਾਂਡੇ ਤੂ ਜਾਣੈ ਹੀ ਨਾਹੀ ਕਿਥਹੁ ਮਾਸੁ ਉਪੰਨਾ ॥
O Pandit, you do not know where meat originated.

ਤੋਇਅਹੁ ਅੰਨੁ ਕਮਾਦੁ ਕਪਾਹਾਂ ਤੋਇਅਹੁ ਤ੍ਰਿਭਵਣੁ ਗੰਨਾ ॥
Grains, sugar cane and cotton are produced from water. The three worlds came from water.

ਤੋਆ ਆਖੈ ਹਉ ਬਹੁ ਬਿਧਿ ਹਛਾ ਤੋਐ ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਿਕਾਰਾ ॥
Water says, "I am good in many ways." But water takes many forms.

ਏਤੇ ਰਸ ਛੋਡਿ ਹੋਵੈ ਸੰਨਿਆਸੀ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਕਹੈ ਵਿਚਾਰਾ ॥੨॥
Forsaking these delicacies, one becomes a true Sannyaasee, a detached hermit. Nanak reflects and speaks. ||2||

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In gurmat, Plant body(shareer) is also attributed with term Meat(ਮਾਸੁ ) born of water. we call it plant flesh, not even plant body, animal body too called Meat(ਮਾਸੁ ).

Ambarsariah Ji,
You wrote:...By the way there are experiments in advanced stages that they can grow meat artificially without the animals. Then I think this debate will rest.Or may be Veggans are going to find some other arguments against that, but that is fair enough.

As harmanpreet Singh Ji has quoted above..GURU NANAK JI SAHIB RESTED this "debate" 530 years ago....but it obviously didnt "die" a natural death as it should have ( Even AMONG those who say they beleive in GURU NANAK Ji 110% !! )...so I wont hold my breath that this artificial meat grown in labs will do that....I beleive certain Fast Food Chains have already begun selling this sort of cultivated meat esp in places where it cannot be recognised ( Obvioulsy as in Drumstick..lamb chops etc)..........sausages, burgers etc...

GURU NANAK JI also RESTED many other false beliefs...."sending bhandeh and manjjeh bistreh" to dead ancestors, feeding the dead via feeding the Brahmins on earth ( 5 Fat Gyanis in place of Brahmins), Bathing at teerath in plain water to WASH the MIND !!!, fasting, pilgrimaging, brahmchareeism, etc etc etc...BUT his SIKHS decided He was talking through his "puggh"..and we know BETTER....so His Gurbani is left for ritualised reading by Gyanis while we DO what we got to do !! Ha Ha.

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The story about meat being served is also confirmed on Page 38 of the above book. I don't think it would have been that much of a problem as Langar was made up of whatever people could offer. So someone giving meat in good faith would not be discriminated. Surely if a Butcher like Sadana can have his verses included in the Sri Guru Granth Sahib, what difference would have meat made.
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Meat was however, stopped for a good reason and that was Vaishnav's refusal to take part, and since Langar is open to all, it was decided to leave it out.