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Old 04-Sep-2011, 01:52 AM
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punjabi being our mother tongue is missing from punjab especially from urban areas, the attitude towards punjabi is changing. new generation even does not know that punjabi is our mother tongue.
according to peoples now a days punjabi speaking person is having low standard and pendu (this is practically seen by me)
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families stop their infants not to learn and speak punjabi.

hindi is overtaking punjabi at very fast speed. even sikhs now stop their children from speaking punjabi.

some pretend that they dont know the language this is the case with my many such friends.
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language is the weapon that bind the people of the community or the state and represent their state outside punjab.



 
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re: No Punjabi in Punjab?

In the west, it will be Gursikh's that will make efforts to promote Gurmukhi script and Panjabi language, because without Gurmukhi one cannot read bani.

The next generation of Sikhs are rapidly losing the ability to speak Panjabi let alone read and write. My cousin who arrived from India noted that young Sikh's here in UK cannot converse in Panjabi and speak only in English whether they be monai or Kesdhari.

The young generation in the West make no attempt to converse in Panjabi among themeselves, only when they have to, if they themseleves cannot speak Panjabi its unlikely their kids will speak Panjabi.
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So in the west and in Panjab, our ma boli (mother tongue) is declining rapidly, my cousins in Panjab speak Hindi and thier kids speak Panjabi, its a crazy situation. However in the pind (village) everybody, including kids still speak Panjabi. The main problem is in the shaer (city) areas of Panjab. They think Hindi is cooler, higher class than Panjabi, Fools!
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The only way to keep the fire of Gurmukh and Panjabi burning is to learn Gurmukhi script, read Panjabi books and speak Panjabi among ourselves. Satguru Mehar Karan.

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Re: No Punjabi in Punjab?

The situation is dismal, but certainly, not such that it cannot be reversed. Punjabi is very much an urban language, if you were to compare it with the European languages. The ridiculous thing is that, the Punjabi scholars have been constantly targeting English as the culprit, when the real danger is from Hindi. Many dont even know that Hindi is not the national language, just the medium of Government instruction (alongwith English) as the Constitution of India clearly states.
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Re: No Punjabi in Punjab?

What a shame it would be to lose Panjabi language. It would be like Latin to the Catholics.. German to the Amish (their Bible's are all German and not many can understand it).. Hebrew to the Jews... Punjabi to the Sikhs...
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situation is worse!! in urban areas schools are also hindu oriented and students only speak hindi.........according to them dis is pendu languge and we dont like it.....and they say in their family no one speak this lang......dont know where dis situation will lead to...?????
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Re: No Punjabi in Punjab?

In private schools of Punjab it is compulsory to be speaking in english. In some schools students who speak in any other language than english have to pay fine. I saw in Chandigarh employees of a pvt ltd company speaks only english at work. Sorry, but its true that English is an official language at SPN as well. Including SPN every institute/Company justifies one reason or another.
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for whatever reason, Whenever any Gurmukh says not to communicate in Gurmukhi, it really hurts me a lot.
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Re: No Punjabi in Punjab?

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It would be a shame for those who can't communicate in Punjabi or read Gurmukhi to not have access to the profound spiritual wisdom within Sikhi. I am very thankful SPN is an English forum.

But you do make a good point, and it raises the question of what the future can be for the Punjabi language? I know it sounds like a silly question, but what is the reason to keep the Punjabi language?
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I am personally trying to learn Punjabi so I can understand what Punjabi-speakers have to say about Sikhi. But as more of them learn English, will it even be necessary for anyone else to learn Punjabi?
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Re: No Punjabi in Punjab?

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It would be a shame for those who can't communicate in Punjabi or read Gurmukhi to not have access to the profound spiritual wisdom within Sikhi. I am very thankful SPN is an English forum.

But you do make a good point, and it raises the question of what the future can be for the Punjabi language? I know it sounds like a silly question, but what is the reason to keep the Punjabi language?

I am personally trying to learn Punjabi so I can understand what Punjabi-speakers have to say about Sikhi. But as more of them learn English, will it even be necessary for anyone else to learn Punjabi?
Bhenji,

I suppose a good reason to learn would be so that one is able to understand the content of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji without third party translation.
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In private schools of Punjab it is compulsory to be speaking in english. In some schools students who speak in any other language than english have to pay fine. I saw in Chandigarh employees of a pvt ltd company speaks only english at work. Sorry, but its true that English is an official language at SPN as well. Including SPN every institute/Company justifies one reason or another.
for whatever reason, Whenever any Gurmukh says not to communicate in Gurmukhi, it really hurts me a lot.
English is very much demanded in private companies.If you don't know english then no private company will give you job no matter how good your technical skills are
.The kids that grow up learning in Hindi or other regional medium school end up saying that non english medium school has ruined their life,so English learning is must for future.

The problem of Punjabi is that it has become language of local businessmen ,drivers who use it in abusive manner.Punjabi is more used in abusing than talking in respectable manner
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