Nagar Kirtan or JALOOS

Gyani Jarnail Singh · #1 (**permalink**) 26-Apr-2012, 17:14 PM

What is Great about Nagar Kirtan?
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Comes Vaisakhi and it brings a season of Nagar Kirtan around the world. To me it sounds like a mass congregation with no spiritual significance. It is mere a funfair. People come to socialize; enjoy assortment of free food and beverages. There are no preaching values during the procession. Notwithstanding the magnitude of gathering at Nagar Kirtan year over year, we fail to increase awareness of true Sikh values around the world resulting in many un-resolved issues. On-going fears of 911 hate crime in North America as an example.

Singing divine hymns from the Sri Guru Granth Sahib requires devotion and dedication. Gurbani informs that association with God is not a matter of accident. In order to attain ultimate stage (sahaj avastha) one has to follow through an arduous process of spiritual practices or discipline and progress stage by stage.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=38409

In Sri Guru Granth Sahib, there are over 5,800 shabads and for a Sikh each one is divine order (Hukam).

It’s a huge ocean of knowledge and wisdom that requires contemplation with utmost concentration and consciousness. This can not be attained in large gathering on streets; gurbani never suggests this type of revelry.

In the opening stanza of Sri Guru Granth Sahib (on page 14th), Guru Nanak seeks a lifetime promise of honesty and loyalty towards Guru, Gurbani and God in every situation or circumstance. The stanza suggests one can attain all the riches of the materialistic world and by following Guru’s direction, one can receive blessing of Waheguru. Therefore oh Gursikh, “mat daykh bhoolaa veesrai!” - be honest and loyal to your Guru, Gurbani and God (Akal Purakh) throughout your life as a true Sikh.Baabaa Nanak also urges us to develop humility, compassion and Sahaj through constant remembrance of God. Spiritual and material life could be maintained in harmony. Sikhi is the state of mind, while outlook is a reflection of a solder that is why a Sikh is also known as a “Sant-Sipahi”, however such a temperament is missing today.

Mohan Singh Ahluwalia
Woodbridge, Ontario.

walia44@hotmail.com

dalbirk · #2 (**permalink**) 26-Apr-2012, 17:35 PM

One more thing I wish to state that the enormous amount of resources so wasted in OPEN SHOW OFF & ego boosting exercises be better utilised in making Sikh Sangat as well as natives better informed about Sikh religion . At this time I find hardly 5% of Sikhs capable of reciting correct MOOLMANTAR , about 1% ( or less ) capable of naming TEN GURUS IN SEQUENCE , talking of SIKH REHAT MARYADA is a long long way when only 5% or less have even heard of the existence of something like this leave alone its contents which are clear to a probabely a few thousand Sikhs in the whole world . There is too little effort on preaching the basic tenets of Sikhism whereas a lot of energy is wasted on ROADSIDE SHOWS like Nagar Kirtans , Rain Sabai Kirtans , Kirtan Darbars which are nothing more than socialising events . Waheguru Sikh Quam nu Sumat Bakhshe .

TigerStyleZ · #3 (**permalink**) 17-May-2012, 20:37 PM

One Question : Why everyone says 10 Gurus? What is with the Guru Granth Sahib ji? Yes, he isnt a living Guru, but we can get the same Wisdom of the Guru Granth Sahib ji, like of a living Guru exp: Guru Nanak Dev ji. You can ask Guru Granth Sahib ji as well if you have questions.

harry haller · #4 (**permalink**) 17-May-2012, 20:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerStyleZ

One Question : Why everyone says 10 Gurus? What is with the Guru Granth Sahib ji? Yes, he isnt a living Guru, but we can get the same Wisdom of the Guru Granth Sahib ji, like of a living Guru exp: Guru Nanak Dev ji. You can ask Guru Granth Sahib ji as well if you have questions.

On the one hand I agree with you, however on the other hand, I think too many people concentrate on the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji being alive rather than a source of great wisdom and information. Is the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji the 11th Guru then, in which case people tend to make a big fuss over the room where it is kept, the temperature, the food served to it, the cloths that contain it, or is it the spirit of the 10 Gurus, which is contained in the words within it, as equal to the words on a computer screen. We do not offer our computers the same respect as the paper that holds the words in the written book.......

So do we have 11 Gurus? or do we have the a written record that holds the wisdom of 10 Gurus

I have never yet met anyone at a Kirtan who actually had any interest in Bani, and that often includes the Gyani!

prakash.s.bagga · #5 (**permalink**) 18-May-2012, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerStyleZ

One Question : Why everyone says 10 Gurus? What is with the Guru Granth Sahib ji? Yes, he isnt a living Guru, but we can get the same Wisdom of the Guru Granth Sahib ji, like of a living Guru exp: Guru Nanak Dev ji. You can ask Guru Granth Sahib ji as well if you have questions.

Actually we have yet to know what is being refered as GuRoo in Gurbanee?

Prakash.S.Bagga

TigerStyleZ · #6 (**permalink**) 18-May-2012, 02:08 AM

Guru is Everything and nothing - it is in all -it isn´t a certain person from darkness to light ( the enlightenment) And this Guru can be reached true the "Guru" Granth Sahib - because it already has this wisdom.