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Harry Haller

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We don't have to care for one another, God takes care of everyone and gives everyone what they deserve.

so 1984 is down to God? all the people that got killed and raped that did not get saved, they deserved it right? The cripple in the wheelchair, deserved it? all the folk with HIV, they deserved it too, I suppose it is an easy way of seeing who is not in Gods favour, if your suffering in any way, you deserved it, but you have also said that suffering brings us closer to god, so its a bit confusing.
A real bhagat only cares about Truth- and living in this frequency. Truth is just a frequency that we vibrate- we silence our minds and just Feel within our beings.
What if you think you know the truth, is that not a bit dangerous, what if you happen to be wrong, why not just keep the truth to yourself and spare the rest of us
But we work on ourselves. Maya is a cesspool of bullsh*t mind chatter. When your mind shuts up- then you Truly live.
or maybe you truly die
The real you is devoid of mayas endless talking and deceit whether it be your own mind, or others bull words and maya reactions.
I would say the real you is how you deal with all of the endless talking and deceit, rather than hiding away in your own conciousness.
 

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We don't have to care for one another, God takes care of everyone and gives everyone what they deserve. A real bhagat only cares about Truth- and living in this frequency. Truth is just a frequency that we vibrate- we silence our minds and just Feel within our beings.

Balanced soul= 9-5 work
6-7 gym
evening meditate
then you can take on a seva.
But we work on ourselves. Maya is a cesspool of bullsh*t mind chatter. When your mind shuts up- then you Truly live. Doing seva helps shut your mind up. The real you is devoid of mayas endless talking and deceit whether it be your own mind, or others bull words and maya reactions.


you said earlier...."do good" - part of that is to look after one another...i.e. don't have the intention to harm another...give someone a hand if they need it etc etc i.e. Selfless Seva...

but then you go and say we don;t need to look after one another. Make your mind up :)
everything you say is great...meditate on Waheguru, do seva, quieten the wayward mind...and the truth becomes visible with Guru Ji's grace.
 

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so 1984 is down to God? all the people that got killed and raped that did not get saved, they deserved it right? The cripple in the wheelchair, deserved it? all the folk with HIV, they deserved it too, I suppose it is an easy way of seeing who is not in Gods favour, if your suffering in any way, you deserved it, but you have also said that suffering brings us closer to god, so its a bit confusing.

its not confusing...as you sow, shall you reap...people moan when they are in hardship..."why me"...
if they accept the above equation, then they know why it happened...its what they are reaping from what they had sown...end of. If you don't like that equation...just keep moaning.

The true warriors do something about it....they better themselves...sow good seeds...make a difference...

And i know what your going to say..."how can the people that have died in all those atrocities start to sow better seeds" .... the answer is...you don't die...they don't die...their evolution is continuous even when they shed their physical form.

But how can one know all this...Well Guru Ji tells us how.
if you don;t want to listen to Him, keep moaning and using the same arguments over n over.

people at the top of a mountain have the best view, they see more than the person passing through a dense forest...having that view allows us to see the bigger picture...and live according to that bigger picture...and it's accessible to you...especially now you're in Human form...

What if you think you know the truth, is that not a bit dangerous, what if you happen to be wrong, why not just keep the truth to yourself and spare the rest of us

Why? why should he do this? If You cannot handle the Truth, you should leave...and return when you can...why should he have to keep the truth to himself...?

Should Guru Ji have kept it all to themselves....the Truth will kick you in the Teeth (Ego)...its hard to take, its why many people that open SGGS Ji after spending many years just bowing to it...don't open it up again....because they can't handle the truth...they have desires to fulfill...they don;t want to know the truth..

Its designed to wake you up....shake you up deep on the inside...make you question everything...make you contemplate no matter how hard it is...no matter how hard it is to see a person in a wheelchair and in the back of your mind know of the above equation...as you sow shall you reap...

Being in the better position...at least you have your hand to offer help with selflessy...and thus in the background, sowing your own seeds...

Also, people living through difficulty and living great lives, doing great things are on many occasions a blessing...they overcome their own internal battles and 'live'...they inspire others, they lift others.

Everything is Gods Khel...it is Him that is living it...there is no other...and this is the hardest thing to comprehend...and accept...but when you do....oh my gosh, does your life change


rather than hiding away in your own conciousness.

Greatest discovery is of ones true self...

i often heard people say "the universe exists within you"...and thought what a load of tosh!...lol

i have to say now,,,they speak the truth...everything is accessible via your Body...the 'stargate' as Original Ji calls it lol :)

So ...'hiding' away in your consciousness, is in fact...living...being a part of everything...including the physical...
 
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so 1984 is down to God? all the people that got killed and raped that did not get saved, they deserved it right? The cripple in the wheelchair, deserved it? all the folk with HIV, they deserved it too, I suppose it is an easy way of seeing who is not in Gods favour, if your suffering in any way, you deserved it, but you have also said that suffering brings us closer to god, so its a bit confusing.

What if you think you know the truth, is that not a bit dangerous, what if you happen to be wrong, why not just keep the truth to yourself and spare the rest of us

or maybe you truly die

I would say the real you is how you deal with all of the endless talking and deceit, rather than hiding away in your own conciousness.

Gurbani itself tells the fate of the slanderers and sinners and how we reap what we sow. Either we accept Gurbani 100% or we don't.

Gurbani also says that pain is the remedy and pleasure is the disease because in pleasure we don't really think of God- i'm not saying anything new here, everything I've written has been taught by the great Kings themselves.
 

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its not confusing...as you sow, shall you reap...people moan when they are in hardship..."why me"...
if they accept the above equation, then they know why it happened...its what they are reaping from what they had sown...end of. If you don't like that equation...just keep moaning.

The true warriors do something about it....they better themselves...sow good seeds...make a difference...

And i know what your going to say..."how can the people that have died in all those atrocities start to sow better seeds" .... the answer is...you don't die...they don't die...their evolution is continuous even when they shed their physical form.

But how can one know all this...Well Guru Ji tells us how.
if you don;t want to listen to Him, keep moaning and using the same arguments over n over.

people at the top of a mountain have the best view, they see more than the person passing through a dense forest...having that view allows us to see the bigger picture...and live according to that bigger picture...and it's accessible to you...especially now you're in Human form...



Why? why should he do this? If You cannot handle the Truth, you should leave...and return when you can...why should he have to keep the truth to himself...?

Should Guru Ji have kept it all to themselves....the Truth will kick you in the Teeth (Ego)...its hard to take, its why many people that open SGGS Ji after spending many years just bowing to it...don't open it up again....because they can't handle the truth...they have desires to fulfill...they don;t want to know the truth..

Its designed to wake you up....shake you up deep on the inside...make you question everything...make you contemplate no matter how hard it is...no matter how hard it is to see a person in a wheelchair and in the back of your mind know of the above equation...as you sow shall you reap...

Being in the better position...at least you have your hand to offer help with selflessy...and thus in the background, sowing your own seeds...

Also, people living through difficulty and living great lives, doing great things are on many occasions a blessing...they overcome their own internal battles and 'live'...they inspire others, they lift others.

Everything is Gods Khel...it is Him that is living it...there is no other...and this is the hardest thing to comprehend...and accept...but when you do....oh my gosh, does your life change




Greatest discovery is of ones true self...

i often heard people say "the universe exists within you"...and thought what a load of tosh!...lol

i have to say now,,,they speak the truth...everything is accessible via your Body

So ...'hiding' away in your consciousness, is in fact...living...being a part of everything...including the physical...

Nice post.

The reason I said we don't have to care about each other is because God already takes care of everyone, Gurbani gives the example of how God takes care of baby flamingos when their parents leave them in their youth, the Master asks who teaches them to eat and who takes care of them?

We can do selfless seva, selfless seva is a divine quality but at the same time, we don't get attached to those we've done seva for, we don't get ego of seva (trishna) and we don't get upset by the state of any affair in the world because it's all Gods doing- as you stated before, his hukam.

We remain Care Free and Detached like Him.
 

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Nice post.

The reason I said we don't have to care about each other is because God already takes care of everyone, Gurbani gives the example of how God takes care of baby flamingos when their parents leave them in their youth, the Master asks who teaches them to eat and who takes care of them?

We can do selfless seva, selfless seva is a divine quality but at the same time, we don't get attached to those we've done seva for, we don't get ego of seva (trishna) and we don't get upset by the state of any affair in the world because it's all Gods doing- as you stated before, his hukam.

We remain Care Free and Detached like Him.

Waheguru
 

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Sikhilove Ji

Forgive me for being oddly pompous, but may I, if you'd permit, request you refrain from using verbal diarrhea in Sikh articles. It's so not language of the Sikhs - thank you !

Your writng reflect sound knowledge of Sikh spiritual; I'm proud.
We don't have to care for one another,
..we do ! We are social animals, dependent upon one another in the bigger scheme of the masters plan.
God takes care of everyone
...and that God is you on a human level, meaning, that you have a social responsibility. Gurbani says, 'kar bhala ho bhala' [do good reap good].
A real bhagat only cares about Truth-
...its the truth [sat] that takes care of the Bhagat and the Bhagat, by definition is he who sees Waheguru in all and cares about all.
Truth is just a frequency that we vibrate- we silence our minds and just Feel within our beings.
..no, its not a frequency but rather a permanent state of being of an eternal existence. Ekonkar exists and has its being in Sikhilove. It is the Anhad Shabd [unstruck sound/vibration] towards which we must gravitate and become one with. And, when we do become one with, the mind ceases to exist [man tu jyot saroop ha apna mool pehchan -p441 SGGSJ].
Balanced soul= 9-5 work
..what of the unbalanced ?
..training under open sky will do or does it have to be a gym ?
evening meditate
..or morning...important is meditation !
then you can take on a seva.
...only by the grace of waheguru
But we work on ourselves.
100%
Maya is a cesspool of bullsh*t mind chatter.
...maya is female, here today gone tomorrow, enjoy therefore while you can within resonable parameters.
When your mind shuts up- then you Truly live.
..agree ! Shuting the mind up takes many a life times.


Goodnight n God bless
 

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Sikhilove Ji

Forgive me for being oddly pompous, but may I, if you'd permit, request you refrain from using verbal diarrhea in Sikh articles. It's so not language of the Sikhs - thank you !

Your writng reflect sound knowledge of Sikh spiritual; I'm proud.

..we do ! We are social animals, dependent upon one another in the bigger scheme of the masters plan.

...and that God is you on a human level, meaning, that you have a social responsibility. Gurbani says, 'kar bhala ho bhala' [do good reap good].

...its the truth [sat] that takes care of the Bhagat and the Bhagat, by definition is he who sees Waheguru in all and cares about all.

..no, its not a frequency but rather a permanent state of being of an eternal existence. Ekonkar exists and has its being in Sikhilove. It is the Anhad Shabd [unstruck sound/vibration] towards which we must gravitate and become one with. And, when we do become one with, the mind ceases to exist [man tu jyot saroop ha apna mool pehchan -p441 SGGSJ].

..what of the unbalanced ?

..training under open sky will do or does it have to be a gym ?

..or morning...important is meditation !

...only by the grace of waheguru

100%

Hi thank you, and Bullsh*t is the word that best describes maya, I didn't mean to offend you, it's just the best word I am able to use.

Noone is dependant on anyone else, we came alone and we'll go alone. There are people who live off what they grow and live in shacks that they themselves have built.

However in the modern world, we do work together to create a higher standard of living- thats part of the beauty of going to work, we can all contribute and are able to share our earnings, Dasvand if we choose. Yes socialising can be fun and so can networking in general, but the purpose of Gurbani is to teach us to detach and teach others out of the illusion as well. Part of Detachment is not caring about others karam, not pitying anyone else, and only caring about Truth. We can do this while living life, that's what Truthful living is, living free of the chains of the bull... aka the 5 thieves/ Maya.

I get what you're trying to say about God being in everyone so we should care, but God teaches us independance. The Gurus didnt wave a magic wand and give people mukhti, they taught people the Truth reality and people applied this themselves. They taught people how to create better karams for themselves instead of pitying the deserved negative karams that they may have received. Yes helping others is a good deed, but if you are helping someone and making them dependant on you, how will they learn for themselves?

Truth Is a frequency. It is a frequency of a balanced gyan that lives to discover while remaining detached from the nasha of the discovery (highs and lows). Whatever discovery we make, whatever form He comes to us in, we bow and recognise it all as Him. We are never shocked, scared, over excited because its all just Him.

He has no image, form, colour, caste or creed-just True love/ frequency- the Truth reality is a frequency beyond what mortal beings can comprehend. We resonate at this frequency when we apply gurbani to our lives, with surrender to the gyan.
 
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Hi thank you, and Bullsh*t is the word that best describes maya, I didn't mean to offend you, it's just the best word I am able to use.

Noone is dependant on anyone else, we came alone and we'll go alone. There are people who live off what they grow and live in shacks that they themselves have built.

However in the modern world, we do work together to create a higher standard of living- thats part of the beauty of going to work, we can all contribute and are able to share our earnings, Dasvand if we choose. Yes socialising can be fun and so can networking in general, but the purpose of Gurbani is to teach us to detach and teach others out of the illusion as well. Part of Detachment is not caring about others karam, not pitying anyone else, and only caring about Truth. We can do this while living life, that's what Truthful living is, living free of the chains of the bull... aka the 5 thieves/ Maya.

I get what you're trying to say about God being in everyone so we should care, but God teaches us independance. The Gurus didnt wave a magic wand and give people mukhti, they taught people the Truth reality and people applied this themselves. They taught people how to create better karams for themselves instead of pitying the deserved negative karams that they may have received. Yes helping others is a good deed, but if you are helping someone and making them dependant on you, how will they learn for themselves?

Truth Is a frequency. It is a frequency of a balanced gyan that lives to discover while remaining detached from the nasha of the discovery (highs and lows). Whatever discovery we make, whatever form He comes to us in, we bow and recognise it all as Him. We are never shocked, scared, over excited because its all just Him.

He has no image, form, colour, caste or creed-just True love/ frequency- the Truth reality is a frequency beyond what mortal beings can comprehend. We resonate at this frequency when we apply gurbani to our lives, with surrender to the gyan.

From a language point of view...that is unexpectedly a very easy to follow post from you...

Many good points...

Maya is bull*** ... but it is good bull**** lol
It is through it by design hat we play the game of love. ..after fulfilling so many desires we still insist on wanting more...but the thirst never quenches so we use the power of desire to give up all other desires and seek some permanent...how beautiful is that...

We have the chance to radiate true love through the nonsense...

Initially it seems a mess...greed anger desire ego attachment ruling almost everything...but it's because of that we seek the one. It serves it's purpose...a design by waheguru to help us reach infinity.
 

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Good morning Sikhilove Ji
Hi thank you, and Bullsh*t is the word that best describes maya,
..how about nonsense !
I didn't mean to offend you
..you didn't ! With age comes maturity and with maturity comes wisdom ! I suppose being young n handsome a margin of manipulation for spicy words can be entertained within reasonable jurisdiction. I don't feel Sikh n derogatory language is compatiable and hence the reason for requesting you to choose more favourable words.
it's just the best word I am able to use.
..expand your vocab a bit ! If you can get hold of Guru Gobind Ji's Zafarnama [letter to Arungzeb] you'll be amazed with the way Guru Ji worded it.
Noone is dependant on anyone else, we came alone and we'll go alone.
...that;s a myth ! The farmer grows the wheat, the baker bakes it into a loaf and it gets delivered by means of production to your table for consumption - more commonly referred to as society.
There are people who live off what they grow and live in shacks that they themselves have built.
..Sikhi promotes sangat and pangat, The concept of "panth" is fundamental to both institutional and constitutional Sikhism.
However in the modern world, we do work together to create a higher standard of living- thats part of the beauty of going to work, we can all contribute and are able to share our earnings, Dasvand
..it isn't just about earning. Look at the natural world, the weak survive and the mild persist on account Waheguru the provider. Humans are cut from a different cloth, they are to live in harmony side by side and understand the meaning of "unity" in diversity.
Yes socialising can be fun and so can networking in general, but the purpose of Gurbani is to teach us to detach and teach others out of the illusion as well.
...the purpose of Gurbani is to connect with the beautiful, good and the just Sikh that all human race is, including you.
Part of Detachment is not caring about others karam, not pitying anyone else, and only caring about Truth. We can do this while living life, that's what Truthful living is, living free of the chains of the bull... aka the 5 thieves/ Maya.
...there is no heaven without hell. As brother Chz said, bit of ego, bit of the 5 players makes one healthy and wise to be able to eliminate them from the real deal, meaning, Waheguru.
We can do this while living life, that's what Truthful living is, living free of the chains of the bull... aka the 5 thieves/ Maya.
..thruthful living is the knowledge, understanding and then walking home to meet the maker. That is what Sikhi is. You don't shut away from the natural world [physical] on account it will lead you to the spiritual world, nay, but rather, head-on meet challenges and excursions which the natural world has to offer and then dismiss them as short-lived pleasures for the real is yet to come.
I get what you're trying to say about God being in everyone so we should care, but God teaches us independance. The Gurus didnt wave a magic wand and give people mukhti, they taught people the Truth reality and people applied this themselves.
..they were social beings, went to bed with their respected wives, had all the human characteristics that you and I have, had children etc, In short, they were mortal beings, but yes, they had self-control and were able to spiritually exit the confines of time and space and merge with the ONE. They knew the unreal does'nt exist and the real never ceases to be, this they paerceived as seers of "truth" [sat] which is differnet from common notion of "reality". Did you know that ? I didn't, thanks to Gurbani I do now.
Yes helping others is a good deed, but if you are helping someone and making them dependant on you, how will they learn for themselves?
..look at the time when Peter requested Jesus to fish for him coz he was hungry and Jesus said, "no, I'm not going to fish for you but teach you how to fish so that you never go hungry". Similarly, our Gurus taught us the best of the best and as a result we are cut above the rest [joke].
Truth Is a frequency. It is a frequency of a balanced gyan that lives to discover while remaining detached from the nasha of the discovery (highs and lows). Whatever discovery we make, whatever form He comes to us in, we bow and recognise it all as Him. We are never shocked, scared, over excited because its all just Him.
,,truth is sat, agree !
..sat is Goid's name [satnam] agree !
..and God is ineffable, agree. If that;d be acceptable then frequency is ruled out since it is both quantifyable and qualitatively calcuable, whereas, Nanak's Satnam [truth] is beyond all calculations.
Yes, there are dimensions, for example, physical, spiritual, emotional, mental, etc and striking the right balance between them, like you say, is good all around. Where Ikonkar "is".....is beyond time n space, none of this frequency business exists...its a permanent "existence".
He has no image, form, colour, caste or creed-just True love/ frequency- the Truth reality is a frequency beyond what mortal beings can comprehend. We resonate at this frequency when we apply gurbani to our lives, with surrender to the gyan.
..yes, true "love" full stop. He/She is Sikhilove that will first come to understand [gyan/wisdom] the human, the physical, the mental, the emotional within which sits the "spiritual" - the Waheguru. Sikhism is a way of life that "co-exists" within all forms of social and religious organsims. Know thyself first to know the Creator O'human for thee a spiritual being having a human experience. Gurbani is the word of God - live it with eyes open !

Have a good day !
 
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"Original, post: 207681, member: 14400"]Good morning Sikhilove Ji

..how about nonsense !
..you didn't ! With age comes maturity and with maturity comes wisdom ! I suppose being young n handsome a margin of manipulation for spicy words can be entertained within reasonable jurisdiction. I don't feel Sikh n derogatory language is compatiable and hence the reason for requesting you to choose more favourable words...expand your vocab a bit ! If you can get hold of Guru Gobind Ji's Zafarnama [letter to Arungzeb] you'll be amazed with the way Guru Ji worded it.

Lol nonsense can also work- to each their own- language is limited anyway, Truth is beyond logic and language.


...that;s a myth ! The farmer grows the wheat, the baker bakes it into a loaf and it gets delivered by means of production to your table for consumption - more commonly referred to as society.
..Sikhi promotes sangat and pangat, The concept of "panth" is fundamental to both institutional and constitutional Sikhism...it isn't just about earning. Look at the natural world, the weak survive and the mild persist on account Waheguru the provider. Humans are cut from a different cloth, they are to live in harmony side by side and understand the meaning of "unity" in diversity.
...the purpose of Gurbani is to connect with the beautiful, good and the just Sikh that all human race is, including you.

You originally said that humans are dependant upon one another, I merely stated that they are not. There are plenty of hermits and jungle folk who get by just fine on their own.

I pointed out that people in general, especially now, have a higher standard of living and in order to maintain this, as well as due to laws and societal rules, we contribute our part.Some people may also work to make and give daswand.

Yes sikhi does promote sangat and pangat, but 'society' in general does not agree with this- the real outcaste of society is the detached, (who practices truthful living, beyond the 'nonsense' reactions and thoughts in maya) and these souls together, are the real sangat. The detached live life, but live the Truth Psychology whilst living.

The Gurus introduced sangat and pangat at a time where muslims were killing, raping and plundering, and factions were fighting amongst themselves. The human race and society isn't one big happy family- not everyone gets along and people are still killing raping and plundering, but the Gurus found a way to bring souls who were able to humble themselves enough to enter a Gurdwara together and gave them the opportunity to learn gurbani and truthful living from a teacher- a sangat of students.
The Gurus recognised that sangat should be of the spiritual and temporal and this is how people could live in harmony and unity.

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.there is no heaven without hell. As brother Chz said, bit of ego, bit of the 5 players makes one healthy and wise to be able to eliminate them from the real deal, meaning, Waheguru.
How about, there is no heaven or hell- there is no ego, there is no maya, its all just Maharaj teaching us reactions to emotions. If you can stare any image in the khel in the face and recognise this, then you are detached.

...truthful living is the knowledge, understanding and then walking home to meet the maker. That is what Sikhi is. You don't shut away from the natural world [physical] on account it will lead you to the spiritual world, nay, but rather, head-on meet challenges and excursions which the natural world has to offer and then dismiss them as short-lived pleasures for the real is yet to come.
..they were social beings, went to bed with their respected wives, had all the human characteristics that you and I have, had children etc, In short, they were mortal beings, but yes, they had self-control and were able to spiritually exit the confines of time and space and merge with the ONE.

Truthful living is living in the knowledge that we are already free, the balance already exists- but the discoveries are endless, so we keep on discovering whilst detaching from the face of the khel.

I never said we shut ourselves up from the world, we embrace dukh and sukh head on, with the knowledge that they are all just Parbrahm. We can still feel pain and pleasure because they are there to be discovered- but we recognise them as Him. It's a psychology, if you're living a messed up psychology, you're in attachment to the illusion, i.e you believe it to be real.

Agreed that the Gurus still lived their lives, we are born to live- but their psychology and reactions were of advanced Truth. They were immortal because of the psychology they lived, they Applied and Lived the gyan of Gurbani. We are already merged, we just don't realise/ forget it. They lived the life experience like everyone else, whilst remembering the gyan, out of True Love. Hence they did not anger, they did not lie, they were not lustful, greedy, envious or jealous. Faced with souls who lived these qualities, they recognised them as the Creator.

They knew the unreal does'nt exist and the real never ceases to be, this they perceived as seers of "truth" [sat] which is different from common notion of "reality". Did you know that ? I didn't, thanks to Gurbani I do now.
..look at the time when Peter requested Jesus to fish for him coz he was hungry and Jesus said, "no, I'm not going to fish for you but teach you how to fish so that you never go hungry". Similarly, our Gurus taught us the best of the best and as a result we are cut above the rest [joke].

Yes they did teach us, and taught us so we can apply the True teachings ourselves (independence- detachment).
They taught us to accept ourselves as lowest of the low, as we truly are nothing- no colour no image no form- no Ego- thats the Truth, and that is Nirboah and Nirvair.

,,truth is sat, agree !
..sat is Goid's name [satnam] agree !
..and God is ineffable, agree. If that;d be acceptable then frequency is ruled out since it is both quantifyable and qualitatively calcuable, whereas, Nanak's Satnam [truth] is beyond all calculations.
Yes, there are dimensions, for example, physical, spiritual, emotional, mental, etc and striking the right balance between them, like you say, is good all around. Where Ikonkar "is".....is beyond time n space, none of this frequency business exists...its a permanent "existence".

Agreed about the frequency, but if it were to be described in language (and language is limited) that would be what it is. Even anhad naad is just a Symbolic reflection of Truth- it doesnt exist.

..yes, true "love" full stop. He/She is Sikhilove that will first come to understand [gyan/wisdom] the human, the physical, the mental, the emotional within which sits the "spiritual" - the Waheguru. Sikhism is a way of life that "co-exists" within all forms of social and religious organsims. Know thyself first to know the Creator O'human for thee a spiritual being having a human experience. Gurbani is the word of God - live it with eyes open !

Rather, All Is the spiritual, the Nothingness, because thats what we are- simply projections of The Truth that the True King himself discovered Himself to be. He is One.

Have a good day !

Thank you, I hope you enjoyed yours :)
 

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