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I am confused about how Sikhs view Hindu Deity. For instance, would it be acceptable for a Sikh to use the Name Parvati as a Divine Name? I have found references to Hindu Deity in the Gru Granth Sahib and I'm not sure how it is meant to be understood.

Is it similar to the Name Allah as a Sikh Name for God?

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kintay naamaa ant na jaani-aa tum sar naahee avar haray.

You have so many Names, Lord, I do not know their limit. There is no other equal to You.
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The literal meaning of Parvati is mountain stream, and since God is all-pervading, he is also Parvati =) Anyway, I think your question was how calling God Parvati is looked upon, considering that Parvati was a Hindu Goddess. I wouldn't mind someone calling God Parvati... And I assume neither would God himself. I don't see how anyone, be it a Sikh or Hindu, would get offended if you called God Parvati. Though it is not normal for Sikhs to call God Parvati, there shouldn't really be a problem...
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I am confused about how Sikhs view Hindu Deity. For instance, would it be acceptable for a Sikh to use the Name Parvati as a Divine Name? I have found references to Hindu Deity in the Gru Granth Sahib and I'm not sure how it is meant to be understood.

Is it similar to the Name Allah as a Sikh Name for God?

Jasnoor
Jasnoor and Charan: My understanding of God as per Sikhi and Sikhism that I understand,

  • God is within each of us
    • It is there whether you are a Sikh, Hindu, Muslim, Christian or even atheist
  • The issue is discovery of God
    • Sikhism encourages you to discover withing and saves you from wandering around to find Him elsewhere even though it is everywhere too
    • Hiduism says (from what I understand) you need a guide (basically Brahmins) to find it
      • They can dictate it to be in a murti, in an animal, etc.
    • Muslims say Mohamed was God
      • You follow Him and his guidance you will go to heaven and God is there
    • Christians say Jesus is your saviour and you are going to achieve God through him
      • All believers will be resurrected
  • The core difference
    • Sikhism says God within and everywhere
      • Internal
      • For me first place to look
    • The other cited namely Hiduism, Muslim and Christians
      • God claimed by a person or assigned to an object or deity
      • External
So for me God's name can be just as examples, Aman Singh, Randip Singh, Jasnoor, Charan, Jasbirkaleka, Bhagatsingh, Gyani Jarnail Singh, Mai Harinder Kaur, Ishna, Kamala, etc.

So each is born with God. Question is who is wandering (bhatkda firda) versus trying to discover.

Sat Sri Akal
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Wonderful! I've never heard it put so beautifully. Such tolerance and inclusion

So when I feel called to honor the Divine Nature as the names of other religions, there is Guru? I view the Names of the Divine as Rays that reach out. Some are warmed by one Ray and some by other Rays. Is this a Sikh view as well?

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kintay naamaa ant na jaani-aa tum sar naahee avar haray.

You have so many Names, Lord, I do not know their limit. There is no other equal to You.
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The literal meaning of Parvati is mountain stream, and since God is all-pervading, he is also Parvati =) Anyway, I think your question was how calling God Parvati is looked upon, considering that Parvati was a Hindu Goddess. I wouldn't mind someone calling God Parvati... And I assume neither would God himself. I don't see how anyone, be it a Sikh or Hindu, would get offended if you called God Parvati. Though it is not normal for Sikhs to call God Parvati, there shouldn't really be a problem...
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I am blessed by what you share here with me. Thank you.

It seems the Sikh path is about opening up vs. closing down...accepting vs. rejecting...giving vs. denying. Is that true?

Jasnoor

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Jasnoor and Charan: My understanding of God as per Sikhi and Sikhism that I understand,

  • God is within each of us
    • It is there whether you are a Sikh, Hindu, Muslim, Christian or even atheist
  • The issue is discovery of God
    • Sikhism encourages you to discover withing and saves you from wandering around to find Him elsewhere even though it is everywhere too
    • Hiduism says (from what I understand) you need a guide (basically Brahmins) to find it
      • They can dictate it to be in a murti, in an animal, etc.
    • Muslims say Mohamed was God
      • You follow Him and his guidance you will go to heaven and God is there
    • Christians say Jesus is your saviour and you are going to achieve God through him
      • All believers will be resurrected
  • The core difference
    • Sikhism says God within and everywhere
      • Internal
      • For me first place to look
    • The other cited namely Hiduism, Muslim and Christians
      • God claimed by a person or assigned to an object or deity
      • External
So for me God's name can be Aman, Randip, Jasnoor, Charan, etc.

So each is born with God. Question is who is wandering (bhatkda firda) versus trying to discover.

Sat Sri Akal
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Wonderful! I've never heard it put so beautifully. Such tolerance and inclusion
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I view the Names of the Divine as Rays that reach out. Some are warmed by one Ray and some by other Rays. Is this a Sikh view as well?
I would say yes indeed! Sikhi teaches us to not force anyone into a religion. Sikhs should be open to people of any religious background. As Sikhs, we should in fact look at different religions as different ways of getting to that One God. As you say, so nicely, some are warmed by one ray and some by other rays.
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Jasnoor and Charan: My understanding of God as per Sikhi and Sikhism that I understand,



So for me God's name can be just as examples, Aman Singh, Randip Singh, Jasnoor, Charan, Jasbirkaleka, Bhagatsingh, Gyani Jarnail Singh, Mai Harinder Kaur, Ishna, Kamala, etc.

So each is born with God. Question is who is wandering (bhatkda firda) versus trying to discover.

Sat Sri Akal

everyone except spnadmin ji LOL She is the mean one.
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everyone except spnadmin ji LOL She is the mean one.
I knew I was going to make some big mistake and so I did. They say never assume. Guess what! I assumed that Aman Singh and spnadmin were Twins

I did want to make one more point why the growth of some of the non-sikh religions is so prevalent. It is so easy to take the easy way out for finding so called external God. You either call somebody God (Ram, Ganesh, Savitri, ...) or they can claim to be God or near God (Mohamed, Jesus, Babbey, Sant/mahant, etc.).

Perhaps it could be a different topic, but it would be good to state where one is with Internal discovery of God within as perceived by self as well as they believe they are perceived by others.

For example I think I am at 20% of internal discovery of God within and others may perceive me at 15%. I don't know where the discrepancy comes from (perhaps combination of kam, karodh, lobh, moh and hankar)!

I do believe the people mentioned including spnadmin are at 20%+ from what I can ascertain from their writing.

Just musing.

Sat Sri Akal.

PS: The expressions here are only philosophical and not meant to denigrate or otherwise impact so as to make someone appear inferior to others.
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