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04-Oct-2008, 21:51 PM
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| | | | | Re: Best and Worst Sites on Sikhism? Quote:
Originally Posted by sunsingh www.srigranth.org - if you click on read page by page you can select between 2 different english translation, 2 different teekas, and 2 different gurbani sets with one that has the bisraams (pauses used in uchaaran) marked. also, mousing over the gurbani gives the translation of the word. G U R M A T V E E C H A R . C O M - loads of amazing katha. www.sikhawareness.com :: Index - imo, best sikh forum on the net. lots of diverse opinions, many of them quite knowledgeable. | www.srigranth.orh is good, but I would encourage people to get the translation by Devinder Singh Chahal too.
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04-Oct-2008, 21:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Satyadhi That is true, Sarbloh does openly admit it's differances with mainstream Sikhism. I guess it is important to study all aspects of Sikhism if I want to be a expert on Sikhism, but it's just that I'm tired of everyone acting like these cults are Sikhs when many of them are closer to Hinduism mixed with a lot of Sikh ideas. I'm sure some of them are very nice people, but they are still spreading a false version of sikhism.
Well, the Nihangs are kind of complex in my opinion, because there are some true Nihangs, and there are many false Nihangs. | I think that is the point, I think sarbloh does not pretend to be mainstream Sikhs and clearly says where it is at odds with mainstream Sikhs. GNNSJ, AKJ, DDT are all at odds with mainstream Sikhi in one way or another but never ever admit it, but launch sites on the net being silent about their differences. | 
04-Oct-2008, 23:30 PM
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| | | | | | | Re: Best and Worst Sites on Sikhism? What is it that defines what mainstream is? If it is the fact that the vast majority of people follow it, than yes, those groups are far from mainstream. But if its how close a group's teachings are to the Guru's teachings, than I would say that DDT is about as close as you can get. | 
05-Oct-2008, 01:57 AM
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| | | | | Re: Best and Worst Sites on Sikhism? Quote:
Originally Posted by sunsingh www.srigranth.org - if you click on read page by page you can select between 2 different english translation, 2 different teekas, and 2 different gurbani sets with one that has the bisraams (pauses used in uchaaran) marked. also, mousing over the gurbani gives the translation of the word. G U R M A T V E E C H A R . C O M - loads of amazing katha. www.sikhawareness.com :: Index - imo, best sikh forum on the net. lots of diverse opinions, many of them quite knowledgeable. | sunsingh ji
As a result of this thread I have renewed or started memberships in as many forums as I am aware of. And just renewed membership in www.sikhawareness.com :: Index today because of your post.
My plan is to really study these sites to find ways that SPN can offer what the other sites do not offer in the way of discussion and other member services. Also to find out what SPN does better so that we can make those qualities even stronger.
What disappoints me most is that several sites have now combined as the Panthic Network (example is waheguroo) and that cuts down on diversity and choice. And BTW, they don't verify registrations as quickly as they claim. | 
05-Oct-2008, 15:20 PM
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Originally Posted by sunsingh What is it that defines what mainstream is? If it is the fact that the vast majority of people follow it, than yes, those groups are far from mainstream. But if its how close a group's teachings are to the Guru's teachings, than I would say that DDT is about as close as you can get. |
One of the core principles of Sikhism is Guru Panth (or consensus), and Guru Granth i.e. the principle of that we as the Khalsa can take a decision with our Guru's blessing.
These decisions, such as the Rehat Maryada were taken by Sikh's, yet the DDT has it's OWN Rehat Marayada. That my friend is not Guru Paanth's decision's and is not consensus, and therefore is not mainstream Sikhi and is therefore a sect.
Read the DDT Rehat Maryada and you will see how far it is from the mainstream Sikh Rehat Maryada, yet they keep silent about the fact they actually have their own Rehat Maryada. | 
06-Oct-2008, 22:54 PM
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| | | | | | | Re: Best and Worst Sites on Sikhism? hmmm... I actually disagree. But I guess that's a discussion for another time, another thread.
I'd like to note that Sarbloh.info website, that site does not accurately represent the views of nihangs. There are some things on that site that are unique to the beliefs of Niddar Singh and his followers who are in the UK. These beliefs are not shared by the Buddha dal. | 
12-Jan-2009, 22:06 PM
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| | | | | Re: Best and Worst Sites on Sikhism? just a suggestion but based on feedback and experience that SPN members are producing could not someone produce a list of all the Sikh sites reported/visited along with a simple red/poor,yellow/okay,green/good grading for all the sikh sites that SPN members visit or come across | 
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| | | | | Re: Best and Worst Sites on Sikhism? joginder ji Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/new-to-sikhism/23183-best-and-worst-sites-on-sikhism.html
We are just now implementing a new feature -- to the right on the home page -- where Links can be uploaded. It does not have a rating scheme attached, but members should be able to upload the sites and give a short description. | 
14-Jan-2009, 18:15 PM
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| | | | | Re: Best and Worst Sites on Sikhism? ok, I have heard about sarbloh, that different researchers were used hence some of the views might be different from Buddha Dal.
Another of Nihang Niddar Singh's sites is now operational again: Sanatan Sikh Shastar Vidiya - Home
There is also a picture on the left of Late Jathedaar Akali Baba Santa Singh reviewing the site in 2006. This site also shows differences between gatka and shastar vidiya. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=23183
Another site that used to be good was Sikhpal.com - The Sikh Social Network
I met many people on there, and I think sikhportal.com - sikh forum chat friends sikhism matrimonial learn games became like a replacement for it although it was in direct competition. Many people moved to the sikhportal site from sikhpal. I would say sikhpal was one of my first real ventures into sikh forums.
But then I would say sikhpal became one of the worst. When it was relaunced, the new site was, lets say rubbish.
Again it went down, and now it has become a site for those with a Ning social network membership. I think the original was the best.
Another site I haven;t really gotten involved with is sikhnet. I think this was linked with sikhpal somehow. www.sikhawareness.com :: Index is one of my faves, but sometimes I have seen it go offline, I believe perhaps it can;t handle the traffic all the time. It has many useful sections, including tradional samrpradaiye. There is a lot of knowledge on that site, but just not enough discussion.
My venture last year onto sikhsangat lasted only for a few months until I was put on moderation. Also there extremism includes nindya of meat eaters, and I would say they are vegeterian fanatics (a term I learnt from sarbloh.info  ). Also much racism against hindus goes on on that site and members don;t seem to get warnings for this. Also some nindya against Niddar Singh on there  .
Some of the members on there started a site called TatKhalsa as well, I believe some of the fanatical members started it, but I don't go on that site so don;t quote me on that.
I also know about Sikhtoons - Sikh Cartoons with a Message and sikhchic.com | The Art and Culture of the Diaspora
Going into the traditional sampradaiye, there's this site on sewapanthis: Sewapanthi.org - The SewaPanthi Samparda
and also on akali nihang khalsa: Shiromani Panth Akali Budhadal
I really like this site, bit it there is a lot of stuff still missing, its got a lot of information. I would say people who might have probelms with sarbloh.info might find this an alternative that might be more accurate?! Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=23183 Welcome to www.NihangSingh.org | | The following members appreciate lionprinceuk Ji for the above message. | | 
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