Do Sahijdhari have to keep kes?

Soulside · #1 (**permalink**) 07-Feb-2008, 09:26 AM

I have heard mixed things on this. Is there anyone who can clear it up for me?
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Amarpal · #2 (**permalink**) 07-Feb-2008, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Soulside

I have heard mixed things on this. Is there anyone who can clear it up for me?

Dear Khalsa Ji,

To the extent I know, either the person is Sikh or non-sikh. The term Sshijdhari, does not come from Panthic language. In a democratic society, people creatwe denomination of different types; Sahijdhari is noe of them.

What they do, it is for them to decide. There is no special directive for them as Sikh religion believes in brotherhood of mankind, it prescribes the same spirituality to all.

With love and respect for all.

Amarpal Singh

Astroboy · #3 (**permalink**) 07-Feb-2008, 13:20 PM

I have spoken to a few sehajdharis (the ones who cut their hair) about their views on 5K's and to my surprise, they all respect the need to adhere to it, just that their family circles are 'modern looking' and they feel comfortable to remain where they are, but at the same time they feel that no one should be discouraged to work towards 5K's.
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kds1980 · #4 (**permalink**) 07-Feb-2008, 14:22 PM

Its better for sehajdhari's to study sikhism themselves.If they find that keeping kesh is necessary then keep it if they don't then its their wish.

Gyani Jarnail Singh · #5 (**permalink**) 07-Feb-2008, 18:02 PM

Kesh keep on growing...all by themselves....so all a "sehajdharee" got to do is....not CUT them. Cutting is a human act and done consciously - hence the sehaj is interrupted...meaning one step forward..FIVE steps Backward.
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Sikhi/Gurmatt is FREEDOM of CHOICE/Voluntary LOVE..no force..no subjugation..no compulsion...if you LOve..stay on the path of SEHAJ...otherwise take as many steps back as you like...not to worry...all you can do is go backwards !!!

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dalsingh · #6 (**permalink**) 07-Feb-2008, 18:24 PM

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Originally Posted by namjap

I have spoken to a few sehajdharis (the ones who cut their hair) about their views on 5K's and to my surprise, they all respect the need to adhere to it, just that their family circles are 'modern looking' and they feel comfortable to remain where they are, but at the same time they feel that no one should be discouraged to work towards 5K's.

Comments please.

I think this is the general case. Most monay I know get happy and excited when a bundha who is a bundha decides to keep kesh.

Huck_Finn · #7 (**permalink**) 08-Feb-2008, 04:22 AM

Amarpal ji put it beautifully

either you are sikh or not

couldn't agree more

and no one can give you a license /approval of being a sikh except your own conscience.

kds1980 · #8 (**permalink**) 08-Feb-2008, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by amarsanghera

Amarpal ji put it beautifully

either you are sikh or not

couldn't agree more

and no one can give you a license /approval of being a sikh except your own conscience.

So if a person is following his personal guru.And he does beleive in Guru nanak or Guru granth sahib.Is he also a sikh?

Astroboy · #9 (**permalink**) 08-Feb-2008, 14:58 PM

Hafiz Sahib once wrote a poem in Arabic saying that if one wishes to realize God one should leave one's home and go to the wild places. Bhai Nandlal was a great gurubhakta (of Guru Gobind Singh) and when he read this, he said, "God? God is here!" and indicated his Guru who was nearby. He then added, "Where will you go? What is there in the jungles? He is standing here.", Who can say this sort of thing with any accuracy? Only he whose eye is developed- he who has seen, and then speaks of what he has seen. Those who boast
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of their Guru without truly seeing what he is speak without real knowledge; their words are empty. For such people the Guru is the Guru when conditions are favorable, but when the conditions become difficult they turn their backs on him.