Understanding Gurbani

First line - Speaks about the death of the Ego -- when a person is dead but alive their individuality, sense of individual self has ended and their consciousness is perfectly tuned to the Divine. Detachment, consciousness, anand. Oneness with the Divine equals liberation.
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Second line - In ordinary consciousness, one sees and hears in the ordinary sense, but is blind and deaf to consciousness of the Divine, and so may as well have never been born. Distraction in Maya equals bondage.
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Respected aad ji
Very many Thanks for your lucid resonse.

hm sbid muey sbid mwir jIvwly BweI sbdy hI mukiq pweI ] (601-4, soriT, mÚ 3)

[I have died in the Word of the Shabad, and through the Shabad, I am dead while yet alive, O Siblings of Destiny; through the Shabad, I have been liberated.]
and
sbdu n jwxih sy AMny boly sy ikqu Awey sMswrw ] (601-6, soriT, mÚ 3)
[Those who do not know the Shabad are blind and deaf; why did they even bother to come into the ....
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Coming straight to the point kindly explain the meaning of the translation and as to how that you have interpreted above would be linked to the meaning assigned by the translator.
I cannot do it.
Could you kindly assign meaning to the translation of the first tuk that I have split into three parts as follows:

1.I have died in word of sabad
2.and through Sabad I am dead and yet alive;
3.thru Sabad I have been liberated.

Would be grateful again.My understanding of gurbani is very limited and hence a request.

Regards.

Seeker ji

Sat Nam -- I added two thoughts to my reply which on re-reading seem essentail.

Seeker07 Ji, and Aad Ji,
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Here's my two cents worth.

Question 2 and 3 are the same thing yet explained differently.

I would explain it as follows:-

The linkage with the shabad is so strong and unbreakable that one's purpose of coming into this world had been accomplished. For, now it is the permanent asra (dependence) of the inner shabad.

I am dead and yet alive - dead towards the world and liberated in soul.

But in this context, it means still living in my physical body, but as good as dead as there is no further use of this physical body. Mission has been accomplished.
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~ Santokh ~

Santokh,
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You are saying something important. A person doesn't stop living in the world or even ignoring the world - the illusion is also His creation. There is a change of mind.

Very Many Thanks to Aad ji and Begum ji for explanations. I think the problem is my understanding. It is requested that kindly bear me and let me sail through the meaning that you are trying to explain but I am not able to get. May be it is on account of my total ignorance, I shall put it again in my language and may be then you can explain looking into the pit in which my intellect is fallen into.

hm sbid muey sbid mwir jIvwly BweI sbdy hI mukiq pweI ] (601-4, soriT, mÚ 3)

[I have died in the Word of the Shabad, and through the Shabad, I am dead while yet alive, O Siblings of Destiny; through the Shabad, I have been liberated.]
and
sbdu n jwxih sy AMny boly sy ikqu Awey sMswrw ] (601-6, soriT, mÚ 3)
[Those who do not know the Shabad are blind and deaf; why did they even bother to come into the ....
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1.I have died in 'Word Of sabad'
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2.and thru.'sabad' I am dead and yet alive.
3. Through 'Sabad' I have been liberated.

1.and 2
'word of sabad' is the same eternal 'word' that is reflective of the Almighty. Hence that you are explaining is that 'In the love of Lord I attain the death i.e and am away from the wordly entanglements/Maya/illusion'. Hence I am living dead and have no ego/haume. I am 'jeevan -Mukt'.
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3.
It is in the 'love of lord' ['Sabad'] that I get the salvation.

The sabad used here is not the as is usually understood to be the word of gurbani.
Kindly guide

KIndly correct me and if you want to add ,kindly do that.

Seeker ji

1.and 2
'word of sabad' is the same eternal 'word' that is reflective of the Almighty. Hence that you are explaining is that 'In the love of Lord I attain the death i.e and am away from the wordly entanglements/Maya/illusion'. Hence I am living dead and have no ego/haume. I am 'jeevan -Mukt'.

3.
It is in the 'love of lord' ['Sabad'] that I get the salvation.

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I am not sure how what you are saying is fundamentally different from what has already been said -- only put differently. The shabd, the Divine Word, is what takes one to union with God, and detachment. Tunr your face to the Guru and away from Maya. Maybe I am the one who is ignorant. However, I can say that being overly analytical with language is itself a distraction from a deep experience of the shbad guru. So I shall not say more.

Respected Aad ji,

Let me put it this way. I took your guidance as contained in your first post as the guide and then drew the conclusion as per the one that you state to be similar to your version of meaning.
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From the point of that I have in mind 'sabad' and 'word of sabad'[as used by the translator] to be two different and very specfic entities.

If there is a mention of 'word of sabad' in the translation I presume it to be the 'holy word'['Ong'] uttered by the Lord Himself for bringing this creation in motion. I shall be ,in that case' implying that it is a 'sabad' which can be either of the followings:

1.'sabad': Taken as hymn used for the eulogisation for the Almighty.

2. Sabad: may be this is used for expressing the bani or gurbani.

Hope you have the point of view from which the question was asked. Needless to state that the translator has his own prerogative.

[ citing a crude example: let us read gurbani.
I would mean:
1.that let us read the Bani of the guru sahibs.
or
1.Let us read the 'word of sabad' of Bani.
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The second translation will be confusing to any one. you need not reply though and thanks.

Thanks once again

Seeker07 Ji,
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In order to understand Sabad better, I would take more lines from Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji for comparison. The translator is correct when he mentions word of sabad because we should know the difference between the original dhun (sabad) and the manifested inner sounds (anhad shabad) which one can hear via inner ears. Original sabad created the universes. Word of the sabad = sound and light manifestation of the original sabad. The word is both heard and seen. Hence, the next tuk (line) that says,
Those who do not know the Shabad are blind and deaf; why did they even bother to come into the ....

Let's be clear about this,
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Original Sabad = which created the universes (cannot be known below turiya)

Word of the sabad = manifested as sound and light principle.

The sound principle is Anhad Naad
The Light principle is Soul Travel

Gurbani - writings which point in the right direction.