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Old 28-May-2006, 18:04 PM
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I think its all love or ability if one can understand asper the time the fist guru went to mecca for huj and after that no guru not even went further to Afganistan. Its all in the books or the system how they flurrish in the religion especially in Brown creed. the sikh from the time of gurunanak to guru gobind maks sikh people suffering the most. the first guru never even think that their followers will fight and after partition when all the memories of firstguru was given to pakistan in charda Punjab. Now its obvious that for followers its hard to learn and practice thier preachings as per the other who are great warriors! So in the end all in the system how they practice love.



 
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Old 28-May-2006, 18:23 PM
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re: Is It A Sin For A Sikh To Marry A Non-Sikh?

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I think its all love or ability if one can understand asper the time the fist guru went to mecca for huj and after that no guru not even went further to Afganistan. Its all in the books or the system how they flurrish in the religion especially in Brown creed. the sikh from the time of gurunanak to guru gobind maks sikh people suffering the most. the first guru never even think that their followers will fight and after partition when all the memories of firstguru was given to pakistan in charda Punjab. Now its obvious that for followers its hard to learn and practice thier preachings as per the other who are great warriors! So in the end all in the system how they practice love.

Das finds some flaows over here.

1. First Master did go in many parts of the world but later Gurus(As per Vars of Bhai Gurdas 1st) behold Sikhs as same Guru and did sent Preachers as far as in iraq and often people from west came here to learn about faith(more with Shias).
As a result we have sipleeds still in Arebia ,who are Sikhs.
2.Since the time of Fsit Master to this time Sikhs are known for thier brotherhood or frternity.Not only among Sikhs buit for Non Sikhs

Be it
Tsunami,Be it Gujrat earthquke or be it Kashmeer Erath quke or be it Kargill,even those Sikhs in west who are agaonst the pseudo secluar system of government in India did sent help to Indian/hindus Brothers,which was more then Indians pooling for themselves.


Had Sikh been pulling each others leg like hindu brothers do,then Panth may not have survied.

Best Example is nihung AKJ relation ship.totaly with differnt state of mind yet get united often when there is need for Faith(say to oppse Bakri or Kala Afghana Sahib).

elaborate with instance if you have that Sikhs are killing Sikhs since First Guru and then only will we consider this statement.
3.Coming to this thing about Pakistan,if das is correct in Punajbi,it should be west Punjab and that is Lahnda(seting(of sun) ) and not Charda(rising of sun or east).

Inspite of the fact that there are many Gurudwaras in India realted to First Master,But as Gurmat is nothing to do with place or thier holy ness or worship of object which are created by creator so it is useless for us,It should be more painfull for Hindu Brothers,whose Katasraj ie Birth place of god Shiva is in ruin and still in Pakistan.

But in most of the Gurudwaras in Pakistan we have a good population of Sikhs,who is taking good care of shrines.in fact some hindus and Muslims ahve cinverted to Gurmat there.

Then another thing is that like judaisim is parential faith of Christinaity and Christian shrines are looked after well in israel and Chrsitians have no problem over there.
so simlar realtion we have with Islam.If Muslim is 19 we are plus 2 ie 21 and still 19 is common within us.

in the line of all figthing semtic faiths who love thier community and want thier God on the top so it is possible that Sikhs may regain Nanakana Sahib,but even then love to universe in which Akal lives will be forever as for us in each atom lives our god and we have to serve the same.

If some infigthing is there in jatts or punajbis,it is more due to thier pagan influence.And once source of paganism is plugged nothing adverse could happen.
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Old 28-May-2006, 22:00 PM
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re: Is It A Sin For A Sikh To Marry A Non-Sikh?

There is no such thing as a 'sin' in Sikkhism.
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It doesn't work on the spiritual blackmail of 'sin and repentence' that Catholicism and Islam funtion upon.
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Definetly not a sin. I can understand if it's the wrong thing to do. However it definetly isn't a sin. First point, because if God is only one and has made all types of people, then people should accept that fact and move on with life. That's totally discrassing God's other makings of human beings. Meaning like whites, blacks, etc. It's just easier if you and your spouse share the same ethnicity.
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re: Is It A Sin For A Sikh To Marry A Non-Sikh?

Well, technically, it is a sin for a sikh to marry a non sikh. When the sikh rehat maryada was created (the sikh way of life), its wasn't just a bunch of random people creating rules out of nowhere. These highly religious and intelligent individuals decided this for a various amount of reasons. When someone does what they think is right for you, do you question them? If a parents tells his child, do not stick your finger in the electrical outlet, he must be telling you for a reason. The child does not know the reason and might think that his dad is scolding him frivolously (sp? sorry), but we know that he or she is doing what is right for his child. Even though we might not be told a reason, the rehat marayada tells us that we should not marry a non-sikh and that should be the end of the discussion.
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Dear Nim_23,

I would love to comment on this, but not being of Sikh faith, I am afraid that other members of this forum might feel that I should not be posting a message on this topic....

Please allow me to share my comments with you:
I am of roman catholic faith and have in the past experienced so many stereotypes just between catholic and protestant. Many - of course not all - still feel that it would be much easier and clearer to marry within one's own faith - or one's corner of one's faith. I currently work in a consulting company that provides "diversity training" to help companies to better deal with differences in the workplace, and unfortunately religion is one of the factors that divides people. The more I learn about other religions the more I start to appreciate certain aspects of a variety of religions. Knowledge is the first step to build bridges across cultures and religions. Wouldn't marrying outside of one's own faith be a wonderful way to teach one's children that not only religion but also the character of a person, the things a person does for community, how a person treats people who are different from themselves should count?
Again, I apologize if any members feel that not being a Sikh does not really give me the right to speak to this topic.
Thank you!
Eva
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Originally Posted by Nim_23
A friend questioned me on this topic... "Is is a SIN for a SIKH to marry a NON-SIKH regardless on whether or not the Sikh converts to his/her partners religion."

I hope that we can have an open discussion about this and I can eventually get a right answer to it...

QUESTION:

Q1) Is it a sin for a Sikh to marry a non-sikh even though he stays in Sikhism and his partner remains in her religion?

Q2) Is it a sin for a Sikh to marry a non-sikh and converts to his partner's religion?

Q3) Any other comments. Open discussion.
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Old 01-Jun-2006, 00:11 AM
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re: Is It A Sin For A Sikh To Marry A Non-Sikh?

a sikh can NOT marry a nonsikh end off. how will they get married? a sikh MUST have an ANAND KARAJ and an Anand Karaj can Only take place between a Sikh man and Sikh women. A Sikh can NOT have children with anyone but there partner who they are married to through Anand Karaj. its really not a hard concept to understand just people choose not to understand it. A sikh will never convert, some one who converts was never really a sikh as they never realised there atma and vahiguroo. A Sikh who marries outside Sikhi has also not realised there atma or Vahiguroo.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=8803
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Hence it was tradition to ask Singh and Singhnee before Anand Karaj if thehy had taken blessing of amrit or when they would take the blessing.

also please see panthic maryada to be a sikh you need to follow Panth da Hukam.
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re: Is It A Sin For A Sikh To Marry A Non-Sikh?

Nim ji,
I guess I should be clear that I am not big on sin in particular the kind that Christians, Muslims and Jews talk about. So:

Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=8803
Q#1 My answere is no.

Q#2 Is it a sin?, No but I would wonder about that person's sincerity but maybe the new path was theirs all along.

Q#3 Obviously everyones situation is unique but Lord Shiva knows what is in the heart.
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Ok...Once again that point is made out again..We have different religions, not different gods. I'm pretty sure that white people weren't ment to be white, they just became white, and that we became tan. Everything has a theory behind it. We just have different religions, and thats only because our ancesters were in india or wtv and that the followed the religious beliefs of sikhism. So, don't try and say that it's a SIN marrying a non sikh, because the fact of the matter is that there is only ONE GOD.... Except that fact, because the world would move on much better if everyone excepted this fact, and there would never be any racism problems. Partially if you agree this is a sin, don't you think it's being racist. Besides, its up to you who you want as your life partner, screw the society. However, do look back at your parents, what they think is right. Then decide through with them and then get married to a non sikh or a sikh...
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=8803
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=8803

Thank you...
P.S. don't take things to heart, I'm just being broad minded
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