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I bring this new thread just to know how equal we think men and women are. I know there might be thread related to the equality between the two genders but not in concerned with marriages.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/love-and-marriage/35116-equality-between-men-women-case-inter.html
We say, men and women are equal in every fields of life. Women are far more better than men as they simultaneously take care of the home and their professional life.
Now what it has to do with relationships ?
We see in case of inter-religious marriage, mostly women convert themselves to the religion to that of their husband. Sikh/Hindu/Muslim women marrying men from different religion converts to the religion of their husband, may it be Sikh,Hindu or Muslim. Not many men do that. I read posts where few men are willing to do that but in that case people call them fools as they are giving up their religion to marry a girl. Every coin has two faces. We are seeing only one that they are giving their religion to marry a girl outside their religion. Why don't we look to the other face of the coin that they Love their partner so much that they are ready to take this step. If we can't appreciate their effort, lets not make fun of them by calling them fools. I don't know how many of you(especially men) will agree with me but if women can convert themselves to the religion of their husband then why not men.



 
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Hi all,
I bring this new thread just to know how equal we think men and women are. I know there might be thread related to the equality between the two genders but not in concerned with marriages.
We say, men and women are equal in every fields of life. Women are far more better than men as they simultaneously take care of the home and their professional life.
Now what it has to do with relationships ?
We see in case of inter-religious marriage, mostly women convert themselves to the religion to that of their husband. Sikh/Hindu/Muslim women marrying men from different religion converts to the religion of their husband, may it be Sikh,Hindu or Muslim. Not many men do that. I read posts where few men are willing to do that but in that case people call them fools as they are giving up their religion to marry a girl. Every coin has two faces. We are seeing only one that they are giving their religion to marry a girl outside their religion. Why don't we look to the other face of the coin that they Love their partner so much that they are ready to take this step. If we can't appreciate their effort, lets not make fun of them by calling them fools. I don't know how many of you(especially men) will agree with me but if women can convert themselves to the religion of their husband then why not men.
If a Sikh man or woman is willing to give up their love of the Guru so easily, then I would not call them fools, but weak. They obviously do not have the Chardian Kalan spirit it takes to be a Sikh, therefore they are better off in another faith.
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Re: Equality between Men and Women in case of Inter-Religious Marriage

My experience does not agree with your claim that women convert more often than men. That may be true in India but not in other countries. Religion is not just beliefs but is a way of life and a moral compass. People should NEVER convert for the sake of another person as they are not then going to be committed to the belief system. If you are going to convert it should only be for yourself. It should be due to the conviction you have in the beliefs you are pledging to follow. Love has nothing to do with it as love is a form of attachment can detract you from that path. Love is an emotion and is not always practical. Life is not a movie!! I will never allow anyone to convert for ME as that will be dishonest. This all applies equally to both genders.
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Yup I think outside India people convert less. But in India many have joint families, so it makes sense that they end up following the majority.
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Hi all,
I bring this new thread just to know how equal we think men and women are. I know there might be thread related to the equality between the two genders but not in concerned with marriages.
We say, men and women are equal in every fields of life. Women are far more better than men as they simultaneously take care of the home and their professional life.
Now what it has to do with relationships ?
We see in case of inter-religious marriage, mostly women convert themselves to the religion to that of their husband. Sikh/Hindu/Muslim women marrying men from different religion converts to the religion of their husband, may it be Sikh,Hindu or Muslim. Not many men do that. I read posts where few men are willing to do that but in that case people call them fools as they are giving up their religion to marry a girl. Every coin has two faces. We are seeing only one that they are giving their religion to marry a girl outside their religion. Why don't we look to the other face of the coin that they Love their partner so much that they are ready to take this step. If we can't appreciate their effort, lets not make fun of them by calling them fools. I don't know how many of you(especially men) will agree with me but if women can convert themselves to the religion of their husband then why not men.
Because in the end women have to move in to their husband's house not the vice versa.If men agree to convert to their wives faith then they will be kicked out from family,property etc
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My experience does not agree with your claim that women convert more often than men. That may be true in India but not in other countries. Religion is not just beliefs but is a way of life and a moral compass. People should NEVER convert for the sake of another person as they are not then going to be committed to the belief system. If you are going to convert it should only be for yourself. It should be due to the conviction you have in the beliefs you are pledging to follow. Love has nothing to do with it as love is a form of attachment can detract you from that path. Love is an emotion and is not always practical. Life is not a movie!! I will never allow anyone to convert for ME as that will be dishonest. This all applies equally to both genders.

If that is the case then why every other day we hear topic of UK sikh Girls converting on Sikh forums?May be when a religious woman marries an agnostic or atheist white man then She may not convert and raise her children whatever ways she like but with South Asian Hindu muslim families a woman virtually have to give up her faith.Also unlike islam it is not necessary that a woman formally convert to other religion.Many times they keep saying they are Sikhs despite having non sikh husband but at the same time they raise non sikh families and do their rituals Like karva chauth etc So they indiectly convert to their husbands faith.
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Because in the end women have to move in to their husband's house not the vice versa.If men agree to convert to their wives faith then they will be kicked out from family,property etc
Your statement here is true yes people traditionaly have the girl move into the guys house but that is not equality. Now there are people who are moving in with the girls side. I believe this should be descion of the couple not of traditions.
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Re: Equality between Men and Women in case of Inter-Religious Marriage

you should not have to change yourself in a realationship for any matter. You should be accepted for who you are. The beliefs you have had your whole life should not be changed for mere power because of tradition that men are superior or women are superior. None is superior than the other both are equal.

You shalll always fallow what you belief in the inside. weather you do convert religion you will truly inside always belief in that. Whats the point of a relationship if one cant be oneself and be loved for it.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=35116
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=35116

I say Stay who you are and the other one should undersatnd that you respect thier beliefs and they as well MUST respect yours.

To answer the question in a way. this converting thing should be left in history period stay true to who you are
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As qouted by Harwinder ji "this converting thing should be left in history period stay true to who you are", then why people dont understand the feelings of the men and women who are in love.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=35116
The two people truly love each other, respect their partner's feelings, have great respect for their partner's family members, respect their religion, respect their religious belief etc and are well settled and want to marry but still they have to convert otherwise they cant marry each other and start a new life together.
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