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As qouted by Harwinder ji "this converting thing should be left in history period stay true to who you are", then why people dont understand the feelings of the men and women who are in love.
The two people truly love each other, respect their partner's feelings, have great respect for their partner's family members, respect their religion, respect their religious belief etc and are well settled and want to marry but still they have to convert otherwise they cant marry each other and start a new life together.
These days 99% of so called love is bollywood type .People forget their partners if separated in 6-9 months and find another one



 
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These days 99% of so called love is bollywood type .People forget their partners if separated in 6-9 months and find another one
What does that have anything to do with inter-faith marriege and people converting. Who cares what the stastics. You obviously get into a relationship because you love the person, now it is there choice if they wanna make it work or stay faithfull.
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As qouted by kds1980 that "99% of love are bollywood type" but as per your statement 1% people still exist whose love for their partner is true. Genuinely you will find people more than 80% whose love for their partner is true and they are loyal to them, not only in India but around the world.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/love-and-marriage/35116-equality-between-men-women-case-inter.html
It might be possible that the way in which they express their love for their partner may be a bollywood style but deep within their heart they truly are in love with each other.
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Your statement here is true yes people traditionaly have the girl move into the guys house but that is not equality. Now there are people who are moving in with the girls side. I believe this should be descion of the couple not of traditions.
We had this system of guy moving into girls family from quite some time which is called Ghar jamai.But the problem very low quality of men use to become ghar jamai's.Infact stupid looking Ghar Jamai was One of the character in bollywood films of 70s and 80s.These men were neither respected by their own family nor by in laws family.As far outside India is concerned people don't care where they are living in Girls house or Boys house
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I have seen many non Sikh women marrying Sikhs men and are also accepted by the men's family.
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Then why not non Sikh men are accepted by Sikh women's family ?
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I have seen many non Sikh women marrying Sikhs men and are also accepted by the men's family.
Then why not non Sikh men are accepted by Sikh women's family ?
In our last discussion I have already given you examples how women raise chlidren with husband's faith.Tell me How will a religious father feel when her daughter will tell her "daddy ji this sunday we have mundan (ritual head shaving) ceremony for your grandson , please come along with entire family" .In that case how could you expect any religious father to accept her daughters marriage to non sikh.
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In our last discussion I have already given you examples how women raise chlidren with husband's faith.Tell me How will a religious father feel when her daughter will tell her "daddy ji this sunday we have mundan (ritual head shaving) ceremony for your grandson , please come along with entire family" .In that case how could you expect any religious father to accept her daughters marriage to non sikh.
I personally think that embracing sikhism in later life can be more beneficial than being born into it, I think any religious father would accept the will of god, give thanks for a healthy child, and hope the child becomes a better and more enlightened sikh than would have been, however if we are talking about a father who has more interest in the social and visual facets of sikhism, then I am sure he would be very vexed. Possibly a case of the greater fear of judgement by peer group, than any loss of spiritual potential
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I personally think that embracing sikhism in later life can be more beneficial than being born into it, I think any religious father would accept the will of god, give thanks for a healthy child, and hope the child becomes a better and more enlightened sikh than would have been, however if we are talking about a father who has more interest in the social and visual facets of sikhism, then I am sure he would be very vexed. Possibly a case of the greater fear of judgement by peer group, than any loss of spiritual potential

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The environment in India is quite different.Minority Religions are always under threat from majority.Young people see films ,TV serials where they see various festivals of hIndu's.Also majority of their friends are Hindu's which influence their psychology .Sikhism with Uncut hair is difficult religion to practice so Young people which product of interfaith marriage even with Sikh father may prefer to be inclined towards hinduism.Incase of sikh women and non sikh husband chances are almost 100 % children embrace Hinduism ,with Sikh father and Hindu mother there is still much better chance that a child may accept sikhism
though even in that case Child may end up following hinduism because of getting rid of hair
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I think you are entering a trap that I have only just come out of. I have cut hair, and for 15 years I have denied myself the use of the word sikh to describe myself, simply because the hair and turban are such a crucial aspect of sikhism. It is hard to carry off being a sikh when you look like 'Penfold' from dangermouse (google it, its not a pretty sight), however We are all sikhs, and we all take the path away from gurmukh to manmukh and back again.It is my understanding that if I am a sikh and I do not keep my hair, that is no more manmukh then a sardar having the odd drink now and then, (correct me please if i am wrong), I am certainly not advocating the penfold look, but a lack of kesh should not hold anyone back from trying to better himself or trying to abide by gurmukh more than he/she is.
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Out of the many sikh children born on this very day all around the world, some to very sikhi families, many will have the physical aspects of gurmukh, but few will have the heart. If the object is to have as many physically perfect specimens of sikh children as possible, then your argument has validity, however if we are to hope for more children who actually understand that sikhism is more than reciting japji and keeping long hair and enduring hours of kirtan you cannot understand, it is to accept gods will in your life.

Also of the many that choose to be a hindu, again most will be hindus in name and social tradition, not in heart, but maybe I think that is what causes most pain to most people, not so much the choice of god, but the choice of traditions and social rituals ,.
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