My name is Ramnjit Singh Boparai, and I have created the idea of a nation taking the North and Northwestern provinces of India ( Punjab, Haryana, Hamachal Pardesh, Utter Perdesh, Rajastan, and Kashmir) and the Southern provinces of Pakistan ( Punjab and Sindh.)

I dont like the idea of Khalistan, becuase it is hypicritical to what the sikhs believe in, and sense i am a Sikh and we believe in equal rights i dont like the idea of Hindustan and Pakistan or any religous state.

Azaadistan is based upon Common sense, Equailty to all men women and children, and of all the Dismise of Poverty, for i have wrotten a Bill of Rights in which states that a man of poverty may go to the Azaadi Well fare and claim that s/he needs well fare, and they will be given work and given money by the goverment, and people of which these men work wont have to pay the people but will pay the government taxes in which we cycle around to everyone just like how Guru Nanak Dev Ji tought us, to love all people and to help all and not come to greediness.

I know all this probably sounds a little over-the roof ish but in time, people might be able to take this idea and probably all of us can make a nation of true freedom, and equailty!

If you wish to know more contact me at Jatt_5abi101@hotmail.com yea its a dumb e-mail but hey im 15.



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I think that all countries should have and idealism of equality, freedom but it is, as you said, over the roof-ish... other than that, I'm gonna wait until more posts are made before I further my comment

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I believe all countries should to, but it is never going to happen, so why should we the people of the Indus River Valley, be poisend by the way westerners run their countries, and india/pakistan are getting to the point where they want to be like america, and america is an illusion of Freedom and Equaility, for gods sake they had a history of Slavary of a different race, and a history of taking ones land and claiming it there own. Do we want to be like the nation of which all this happened. No so we need to do something, and it needs to be soon. We all are under the illusion of the world, our world being ran like it should when really pollition and corruption will lead to the dismise of the earth of which the prophets and guru's of our time told to us to be the gift of god, who are we to completely destroy the home Weheguru ji has created for us? For everyone is equal, but when i walk around punjab, i see poverty and everytime i see poverty i see someone begging, and when i see some one bag for FOOD, then something is wrong with where they live, i want poverty in the whole world to come to a dismise, but we need to start somewhere, so lets start with where our ancestors once walked and claimed their own land.



as for any news on Azaadistan, i've wrote a rough draft sort-of bill of rights for Azaadistan to just give u people a over-view on what i think we as a nation of the indus river will change and the freedoms we will have

The Bill of Rights for the Nation of Azaadistan.

Life and Security of the Person

- The right to bare arms
- The right not to be tortured.
- The right to defend yourself
- The right to refuse to undergo any medical treatment
- The right to not be drafted to the military
Democratic and Civil Rights

- The right to vote in elections
- The right to freedom of thoughts, conscience, religion, and belief, including the right to adopt and hold opinions without interference
- The freedom to express yourself.
- The right to peacefully assemble
- The right to freedom of association
Citizenship of Azaadistan.

- The right to enter and leave Azaadistan with or without Citizenship.
- The right to leave Azaadistan without a Visa and return without.
- The right to own real estate to the citizens of Azaadistan, for the non-citizens it is not allowed.
- Citizenship can be granted to anyone, at anytime for a fee of which is to be determined.
Search, Arrest, and Detention

- The right to not be searched with out consult of the government or the city/ pind sarpanch.
- The right to consult or instruct a lawyer or police officer at anytime.
- The right to be informed of the arrest or detention and the reason for it.
- The right to bail from detention, with consults of the sarpanch or government.
- Anyone who has committed a crime has the right to go to court, or leave the country and to never be allowed back in.

If disagree with one of these things, or there should be some things added please respond with what you think


and here is a map of azaadistan

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This thread was alot started in a different area, but it wasn't apropriate for its thred type ( Essay's on Sikhism) so i brought it to this place.

Anyway let me just put everything i had on the other thred on here



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My name is Ramnjit Singh Boparai, and I have created the idea of a nation taking the North and Northwestern provinces of India ( Punjab, Haryana, Hamachal Pardesh, Utter Perdesh, Rajastan, and Kashmir) and the Southern provinces of Pakistan ( Punjab and Sindh.)

I dont like the idea of Khalistan, becuase it is hypicritical to what the sikhs believe in, and sense i am a Sikh and we believe in equal rights i dont like the idea of Hindustan and Pakistan or any religous state.

Azaadistan is based upon Common sense, Equailty to all men women and children, and of all the Dismise of Poverty, for i have wrotten a Bill of Rights in which states that a man of poverty may go to the Azaadi Well fare and claim that s/he needs well fare, and they will be given work and given money by the goverment, and people of which these men work wont have to pay the people but will pay the government taxes in which we cycle around to everyone just like how Guru Nanak Dev Ji tought us, to love all people and to help all and not come to greediness.

I know all this probably sounds a little over-the roof ish but in time, people might be able to take this idea and probably all of us can make a nation of true freedom, and equailty!


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I believe all countries should be equal, but it is never going to happen, so why should we the people of the Indus River Valley, be poisend by the way westerners run their countries, and india/pakistan are getting to the point where they want to be like america. America is an illusion of Freedom and Equaility, for gods sake they had a history of Slavary of a different race, and a history of taking ones land and claiming it there own. Do we want to be like the nation of which all this happened. No so we need to do something, and it needs to be soon. We all are under the illusion of the world, our world being ran like it should when really pollition and corruption will lead to the dismise of the earth of which the prophets and guru's of our time told to us to be the gift of god, who are we to completely destroy the home Weheguru ji has created for us? For everyone is equal, but when i walk around punjab, i see poverty and everytime i see poverty i see someone begging, and when i see some one bag for FOOD, then something is wrong with where they live, i want poverty in the whole world to come to a dismise, but we need to start somewhere, so lets start with where our ancestors once walked and claimed their own land.



as for any news on Azaadistan, i've wrote a rough draft sort-of bill of rights for Azaadistan to just give u people a over-view on what i think we as a nation of the indus river will change and the freedoms we will have

The Bill of Rights for the Nation of Azaadistan.

Life and Security of the Person

- The right to bare arms
- The right not to be tortured.
- The right to defend yourself
- The right to refuse to undergo any medical treatment
- The right to not be drafted to the military
Democratic and Civil Rights

- The right to vote in elections
- The right to freedom of thoughts, conscience, religion, and belief, including the right to adopt and hold opinions without interference
- The freedom to express yourself.
- The right to peacefully assemble
- The right to freedom of association
Citizenship of Azaadistan.

- The right to enter and leave Azaadistan with or without Citizenship.
- The right to leave Azaadistan without a Visa and return without.
- The right to own real estate to the citizens of Azaadistan, for the non-citizens it is not allowed.
- Citizenship can be granted to anyone, at anytime for a fee of which is to be determined.
Search, Arrest, and Detention

- The right to not be searched with out consult of the government or the city/ pind sarpanch.
- The right to consult or instruct a lawyer or police officer at anytime.
- The right to be informed of the arrest or detention and the reason for it.
- The right to bail from detention, with consults of the sarpanch or government.
- Anyone who has committed a crime has the right to go to court, or leave the country and to never be allowed back in.

If disagree with one of these things, or there should be some things added please respond with what you think



If you wish to know more contact me at Jatt_5abi101@hotmail.com



and here is the map of Azaadistan ( notice its boundries are the Indus River and the Yamuna River. just how Punjab was at one time a long time ago.


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So far their has been a Commitee set up in my city, so far it is of a small group of just a few people, and we have discussed and have talked about having the government of azaadistan be based upon Socialist Ideas, only if the great Bhagat Singh where alive today..

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you have quite an imagination...


but i do agree
khalistan is and always will be; a very bad idea....

in fact any religous state is a bad idea. In my personal opinion (and that of many others) state and religion should be kept separate at ALL TIMES.

It can be said that secular liberatarian societies are the greatest and most advanced societies in the world.

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"The white rabbit went that way"... Cheshire Cat

...Whilst the great ocean of truth lay all undiscovered before me.... -Isaac Newton

Dear Ramnjit,

As an individual, my personal opinion is to disagree with you. Pakistan, Khalistan, Azaadistan and what else? This reminds me one of the discourses by Osho where he explained the very concept of a nation itself being evil!!!

Living human values and then let people live should be of prime importance.

Regards, Arvind.

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..................................... gurU swihb (AMg 1412)

Dear Ramnjit

U have a great idea!

Y confine to this much only.............................................. ...........
Humanity is spread all over the world............................................

Please forgive me.

Regards

Gurvinder

The country that ramanjit is saying can only exists in theory.practically that type of country is not possible.

why isnt this country possible, there is nothing about it that gives anyone the wrong end, it wouldnt be a democratic country , for democracy may look good but in the end it just creates groups of 2 or more to just dislike what the other says. What we punjabis and northen indians need to do is learn from the past, now im not anyone to say my idea is perfect, in fact it isnt perfect im only 15 im still learning new things and changing my way of thought. Anyway we need to learn of how maharajas from the past ran punjab, Maharaja Ranjit Singh was one of the greatest kings of his time. He was this great because he cared about his people, he didnt care for the money or for the fame, he could sleep at night peacfully only if every child in his kingdom had food in their stomach, and this is practicaly what i want, what the british have done to our land is horrible, i hate it when your just driving in the city and every 5 minutes someone comes up to begging for money why the hell do they need money they should be tooken cared off and given a job and a 2nd chance, i dont kno about the whole world, but if we as punjabis want this to happen then lets start with our own land and the we start helping the rest, the only reason why i wouldnt make this part of the land and the rest of india a whole country is because countries shouldnt be that big, especially india, the land of cultures. if you didnt really get what i meant in this post please let me kno because i have a really bad habit of thinking things but not typing them : ), so just let me kno, if you dont like anyhting i've said, then tell me why , just dont say we shouldnt have another country or something becuase its obvious to see that india isnt what it was suppose to be and that something is HORRBILY wrong.

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