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nwm sMjogI goieil Qwtu ]
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Those who are committed to the Naam, see the world as merely a temporary pasture.

kwm k®oD PUtY ibKu mwtu ]
Sexual desire and anger are broken, like a jar of poison.

ibnu vKr sUno Gru hwtu ]
Without the merchandise of the Name, the house of the body and the store of the mind are empty.gur imil Koly
bjr kpwt ]4]
Meeting the Guru, the hard and heavy doors are opened. ||4||
swDu imlY pUrb sMjog ]
One meets the Holy Saint only through perfect destiny.
sic rhsy pUry hir log ]
The Lord`s perfect people rejoice in the Truth.
mnu qnu dy lY shij suBwie ]
Surrendering their minds and bodies, they find the Lord with intuitive ease.


nwnk iqn kY lwgau pwie ]5]6]
Guru Nanak falls at their feet. ||5||6||


We are in Leisure so this is a personal discussion and not Vichaar in the strictest sense of the word.The first line made me think about why it is that a temporal world would have laws which are deemed eternal and not temporal?

Especially since the time an individual lives is not very long compared to time itself.

Its like we pull into a rest area whilst on a million mile drive, and then we start to think about which is the best way to get from the parking to the exit and who is the best driver and who built the rest area.When I'm here for just a split second compared to that time before and after my birth.

One man exterminates millions whilst another spends his whole life in charitable deeds.
What does anything matter in this pasture halt.Does God even care about what is happening in the pasture halt or is he more concerned with us getting to the other field .


















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Sinner veer great thread. I believe in ways we are like a "Mitti da Bawa" (a clay doll) that comes about from the dirt and goes back into dirt. We leave different imprints with timelines which may influence any or none over time. Here a non-religious video,


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This just kind of shows of imprints left between humans and others as we come to exist, live and exit.

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spji, the other field is death, unless you are suggesting everlasting life
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Veer ji Thankyou my two Musketeers for entering the fray,I can rely on you always to be my 'first responders'.
This brief gap called life is a service/rest area on the eternal motorway/freeway.
Our exit from the break is called death ,the fields are our longlasting abode and I see them as our life real.
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SPJI,

I disagree brother, but that is not to say you are incorrect or wrong,. My own personal opinion is that this rest area is in fact everything, and after we leave this rest area, there is nothing. This rest area is all we have, all we will ever have. yes, depressing isnt it, I would sometimes love to believe that there is something better afterwards, but having said that, if I knew there was, I think it would influence my attitude to this rest area, and treat it just like a rest area, a brief blip in my complete life, it would become a lucid dream, and I would chase death.
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Veer ji I can count on you even if it is only to disagree,life is so short, look at time the time passed before our birth,or the time elapsed since the pharoahs where did all those billions of Souls go,and more importantly where are those few excellent Souls like Mati daas who gave up this so called life up for their faith,did they not recieve any recognition other than our respect.
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Did you and I start to exist around the 1970's and where were the Guru's before their respective births,how could these giants of our faith not even exist in 1400?
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Veer ji I can count on you even if it is only to disagree,life is so short, look at time the time passed before our birth,or the time elapsed since the pharoahs,did we really only start to exist around the 1970's or was that just when we took our bodily form.
HH and SP ji, I believe the answer to continuation is in the following,

The Selfish Gene

From my own thoughts perspective I would add to it the virtual life we live after death in the imprint we leave in others lives, etc. We are also impacted by similar imprints of others who were before us. Our Guru ji and Sri Guru Granth Sahib being in our face examples of this for Sikhs.
These are the only parts that connects past, present and the future
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The Selfish Gene
Veer Ji I believe many great saints like Baba Budda did not marry,so where is the gene continuation for those most worthy individuals,I agree they left an imprint for others but I also believe they cannot 'die'and they are not just history.
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Veer Ji I believe many great saints like Baba Budda did not marry,so where is the gene continuation for those most worthy individuals,I agree they left an imprint for others but I also believe they cannot 'die'and they are not just history.
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SP ji which one would you pick if you have a choice to see yourself continue,
  • A physical replica
  • A spiritual replica
I will always pick spiritual replica for myself as I rather be 6 ft 2 in, much lighter in skin, with blori eyes (white people eyes) and a chorra (wide face) and chorri shati (wide chest), and some other parts built like but perhaps not good to talk about those !

So Baba Budda ji is more than alive, we just need to define what life is!

By the way neither is re-incarnation or trans-migration of souls .

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