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| | | | | Why did God give us personalities if He has none Himself? Why did God give us personalities if He has none Himself? Register to Remove Advertisements Many people don't believe in a personal God ,they refer to God as a life-force, an entity or some supernatural being.
If we are personal why would he be any different ,are we not made in his image,he is described very often as friendly, kind,loving and forgiving, these are all very personal characteristics.
Logical reasoning would dictate that the individual has to take a personal journey, if you not personally identify with your Self who is taking the journey?
I feel the message in our Guru's word is addressed to our person ,each one of us has to try interpret it personally ,if God has not a personal aspect how could we possibly relate to him?
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| | | | | Re: Why did God give us personalities if He has none Himself? Did you give up holding your breath? That's probably a good idea. It's a great question though. I wish I had a great answer. I really wonder if we were in fact created in God's image, or if that's just our own ego speaking? | | The following member appreciates Annie Ji for the above message. | | 
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| | | | | Re: Why did God give us personalities if He has none Himself? It's hard to know why the Deity does anything. Maybe it's impossible to know. The question I can't get past is, why did It create us in the first place? | | The following members appreciate Mai Harinder Kaur Ji for the above message. | | 
25-Aug-2011, 12:24 PM
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| | | | | Re: Why did God give us personalities if He has none Himself? To experience or explore Itself, maybe?
Just because It can? Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/leisure/36736-why-did-god-give-us-personalities.html
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| | | | | Re: Why did God give us personalities if He has none Himself? Because It was lonely? Aaawe... | | The following member appreciates Ishna Ji for the above message. | | 
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| | | | | Re: Why did God give us personalities if He has none Himself? Wonderful Question Sinnerji,
My own understanding, from a personal point of view is that before you read one word of gurbani, or sing one shabad, or even mediate  , one should have a concept of god, not only externally but also internally. If one has no concept of god, how can one praise god, or understand god.
In Sikhism, gods name is Sat, the truth, the tuth now, in the past, and in the future, forever. My understanding is that the god is formless, I think the 'made in his image' is abrahamic not sikhi, but I am always happy to be corrected.
So if god is the truth, the eternal truth, whom do we worship, whom do we sing songs of praise to?
I think that energy, that truth gave us the ability to know firsthand the way, all of us in our heads carry the instruction manual as to how to behave, how to live, and it is this individual Guru that I believe we praise and worship and talk to, and seek advice of, and allow ourselves to be guided by. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=36736
As well as identifying ourselves with this internal force, I think we should try and show the utmost respect for our fellow inhabitants of this universe, and try and live with them, sometimes we sacrifice ourselves to others, sometimes others will sacrifice themselves for us, as long as our hearts are clean, and our actions are pure, in every good act, we are showing respect for the truth through our actions. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=36736
In my view, to sum up, we respect the external truth by our actions, and we worship the inner truth through our thoughts
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| | | | | Re: Why did God give us personalities if He has none Himself? Hmm... Sinner ji, I think a few questions we should ask prior to yours are:
what is a personality?
what is the difference between no personality and all personalities and one personality? (meditate)
Imagine you meet a person who at one time had one personality and at another time had a different personality. Over the course of your lifetime, you see virtually all personality types and traits in this person. Would you say he has a personality? (meditate)
If you say "yes", even having all personalities, you come to say his ONE personality is characteristic of him having all personalities... how strange.
If you say "no", then even having all personalities, you come to say he has NONE... what the? He doesn't have his own personality you might say. You might say he is just random. (isn't that a personality??)
Now imagine you meet a person who just sits in front of you and does nothing, says nothing, neutral facial expression, just listens to you with a blank face. Would you say he has a personality? (meditate)
If you say "yes", then even in having no personality, you come to say their ONE personality is characteristic of them having none. He is very quiet. He holds no grudge with anyone, not angry, not sad, not excited...
If you say "no", then when he does not have a personality, you come to say "he has no personality". Why would you say they have "no personality"? Would the word 'personality' even come to your mind even in your negative description, if they really have no personality? If they truly have no personality and someone were to ask you "what is his personality?" You would give her a strange look as if you had no idea what what she just asked about him.
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And if at any time, you mistakenly say "He has this one, X, personality". Then realize that any one person is a combination of all personality traits, which appear now and again, in various times and situations. Everyone has all personalities in them.
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People are bones and flesh. An assortment of chemical structures. We can ask:
Does a rock have a personality? Does the sky have a personality? Does a tree have a personality?
If you say "no", An artist is able to see and pull out the personality of these otherwise impersonal things. But does he see in them or give them a personality?
I ask again, what is the difference between no personality and all personalities and one personality?
We are left with very difficult questions. When they manifest simultaneously in my mind, I feel full with energy and enthusiasm. It's the experience of oneness... err...without the oneness, I clearly see the differences, the multiplicity of that moment. It is too vast to explain. Excerpt from Arti: ਸਹਸ ਤਵ ਨੈਨ ਨਨ ਨੈਨ ਹਹਿ ਤੋਹਿ ਕਉ ਸਹਸ ਮੂਰਤਿ ਨਨਾ ਏਕ ਤਹੀ ॥ Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=36736 Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=36736 सहस तव नैन नन नैन हहि तोहि कउ सहस मूरति नना एक तोही ॥ Sahas ṯav nain nan nain hėh ṯohi ka▫o sahas mūraṯ nanā ek ṯohī. You have thousands of eyes, and yet You have no eyes. You have thousands of forms, and yet You do not have even one. ਸਹਸ ਪਦ ਬਿਮਲ ਨਨ ਏਕ ਪਦ ਗੰਧ ਬਿਨੁ ਸਹਸ ਤਵ ਗੰਧ ਇਵ ਚਲਤ ਮੋਹੀ ॥੨॥ सहस पद बिमल नन एक पद गंध बिनु सहस तव गंध इव चलत मोही ॥२॥ Sahas paḏ bimal nan ek paḏ ganḏẖ bin sahas ṯav ganḏẖ iv cẖalaṯ mohī. ||2|| You have thousands of Lotus Feet, and yet You do not have even one foot. You have no nose, but you have thousands of noses. This Play of Yours entrances me. ||2||
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The one who ascribes personalities to things is a person, yes? Only a person can see personalities. Can a rock see personality? I don't think so. Then even to talk of God as having no personality... therein lies His personality.
It seems that as soon as we say "personality"... there appears personality!
As God said "Let there be light" and there was light.
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25-Aug-2011, 15:24 PM
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| | | | | Re: Why did God give us personalities if He has none Himself? Waheguru ji ki Fateh
Answer to any of our question will depend upon our conditioning.It is more so in the field of spirtuality.Any answer which we get from outside will be translated into our experiences;we recognize things and experiences into knwon ones(re-cognition).If we consider this cosmos a play of Divine then play has no final reality and the forms lose the meaning.But if we read Gurubani we get the answers Nirgun Sargun Nirankar Sun Samadhi AapReference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=36736Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=36736 Kisno Kahiye Nanaka Subkuchh Ape Aap
and further Nirgun Aap Sargun Bhi Ohi Kaladhar Jin Sagli Mohi
There are many more examples in Gurbani which answer our question of personality.Again the question is how does one approach the question.
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| | | | | Re: Why did God give us personalities if He has none Himself? [QUOTE=BhagatSingh;151982]Hmm... Sinner ji, I think a few questions we should ask prior to yours are:
what is a personality? What is the difference between no personality and all personalities and one personality? (meditate or think on it)
Bhagat Veera now that is a question ,I will hold my breath till I know the answer (if I survive I shall answer.) | 
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