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| | | | | Philosophy 101 Subject: Philosophy 101 Birth Certificate shows that we were born A Death Certificate shows that we died Pictures show that we lived! Have a seat . . . Relax . . . And read this slowly. One may Believe in...
That just because two people argue, it doesn't mean they don't love each other.
And just because they don't argue,
it doesn't mean they do love each other.
That we don't have to change friends if
we understand that friends change.
That no matter how good a friend is, they're going to hurt
you every once in a while and you must forgive them for that.
That true friendship continues to grow, even over
the longest distance. Same goes for true love.
That you can do something in an instant
that will give you heartache for life.
That it's taking me a long time
to become the person I want to be.
That you should always leave loved ones with
loving words. It may be the last time you see them.
That you can keep going long after you think you can't. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/leisure/25050-philosophy-101-a.html
That we are responsible for what
we do, no matter how we feel.
That either you control your attitude or it controls you.
That heroes are the people who do what has to be done
when it needs to be done, regardless of the consequences.
That money is a lousy way of keeping score.
That my best friend and I, can do anything, or nothing and have the best time.
That sometimes the people you expect to kick you
when you're down, will be the ones to help you get back up.
That sometimes when I'm angry I have the right to be angry,
but that doesn't give me the right to be cruel.
That maturity has more to do with what types of experiences you've had
and what you've learned from them and less to do
with how many birthdays you've celebrated.
That it isn't always enough, to be forgiven by others. sometimes, you have to learn to forgive yourself.
That no matter how bad your heart is broken the world doesn't stop for your grief.
That our background and circumstances may have influenced who we are,
but, we are responsible for who we become. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=25050
That you shouldn't be so eager to find
out a secret. It could change your life Forever.
Two people can look at the exact same
thing and see something totally different.
That your life can be changed in a matter of
hours by people who don't even know you.
That even when you think you have no more to give, when
a friend cries out to you - you will find the strength to help.
That credentials on the wall do not make you a decent human being.
That the people you care about most in life are taken from you too soon. 'The happiest of people don't necessarily have the best of everything;
they just make the most of everything.' Virinder
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| | | | | Re: Philosophy 101 More on Philosophy 101: "Don't praise a man who is proud of his wisdom until it's known how
he employs that wisdom" - Unknown "The unexamined life is not worth living" - Socrates | | The following member appreciates mystique_void Ji for the above message. | | 
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| | | | | Re: Philosophy 101 Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=25050 "That credentials on the wall do not make you a decent human being." "Human beings invent just as many ways to sabotage
their lives as to improve them." - Mark Goulston,
Get Out of Your Own Way: Overcoming
Self-Defeating Behavior, 1996 | 
17-May-2009, 15:41 PM
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| | | | | Re: Philosophy 101 ਕਾਯਉ ਦੇਵਾ ਕਾਇਅਉ ਦੇਵਲ ਕਾਇਅਉ ਜੰਗਮ ਜਾਤੀ ॥ ਕਾਇਅਉ ਧੂਪ ਦੀਪ ਨਈਬੇਦਾ ਕਾਇਅਉ ਪੂਜਉ ਪਾਤੀ ॥੧॥ ਕਾਇਆ ਬਹੁ ਖੰਡ ਖੋਜਤੇ ਨਵ ਨਿਧਿ ਪਾਈ ॥ ਨਾ ਕਛੁ ਆਇਬੋ ਨਾ ਕਛੁ ਜਾਇਬੋ ਰਾਮ ਕੀ ਦੁਹਾਈ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ ਜੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੰਡੇ ਸੋਈ ਪਿੰਡੇ ਜੋ ਖੋਜੈ ਸੋ ਪਾਵੈ ॥ ਪੀਪਾ ਪ੍ਰਣਵੈ ਪਰਮ ਤਤੁ ਹੈ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਹੋਇ ਲਖਾਵੈ ॥੨॥੩॥Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=25050 Kā▫ya▫o ḏevā kā▫i▫a▫o ḏeval kā▫i▫a▫o jangam jāṯī. Kā▫i▫ā baho kẖand kẖojṯe nav niḏẖ pā▫ī. Nā kacẖẖ ā▫ibo nā kacẖẖ jā▫ibo rām kī ḏuhā▫ī. ||1|| rahā▫o. Jo barahmanḏe so▫ī pinde jo kẖojai so pāvai. Pīpā paraṇvai param ṯaṯ hai saṯgur ho▫e lakẖāvai. ||2||3|| The self is the deity, the self the temple, The self is the tribe of the trackers who trample. The self is the essence, light and the offering. In the self are the flowers the devotees string. ||1|| In the continent of the self, I found the Treasures Nine. No one is born, no one dies, says the God sublime. Whatever is in the world is obtaining in self, He who seeks, finds it himself. Says Pipa, it is eternal truth, Only the True Guru helps realize forsooth. ||2||3|| Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=25050 -----Bhagat Pipa, Raag Dhanasari, AGGS, Page, 695 Virinder | 
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| | | | | Re: Philosophy 101 "That credentials on the wall do not make you a decent human being." "Nature does not deceive us; it is we who deceive ourselves." Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=25050
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau, Emile, 1762
"The study of crime begins with the knowledge of oneself."
- Henry Miller, The Air-Conditioned Nightmare, 1945 | 
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| | | | | Re: Philosophy 101 Dear Sangat Ji, kindly look how Bhagat Pipa Ji expresses the presence of the Creator in all and his effort to guide us not to go stray by taking refuge in religious –rites performance but try to find Him within which is possible through the True Guru ਪੀਪਾ॥ਕਾਯਉਦੇਵਾਕਾਇਅਉਦੇਵਲਕਾਇਅਉਜੰਗਮਜਾਤੀ॥ਕਾਇਅਉਧੂਪਦੀਪਨਈਬੇਦਾਕਾਇਅਉਪੂਜਉਪਾਤੀ॥੧॥ Pīpā.Kā▫ya▫o ḏevā kā▫i▫a▫o ḏeval kā▫i▫a▫o jangam jāṯī.Kā▫i▫a▫o ḏẖūp ḏīp na▫ībeḏā kā▫i▫a▫o pūja▫o pāṯī. ||1|| In Essence: The body is my Devta and temple, this body (temple) is my pilgrimage (like Shiv- devotee’s pilgrimage). Within the body are incense, lamp, oblation and leaf –offering Its Bhagat Ji’s advice is to make center of our attention Him within (to seek Him) Pipa.In the body, the Lord is present. The body is His temple, In the body is the place of pilgrimage, of which I am pilgrim.In the body are incense, earthen lamps and oblation, in the body is the leaf offering. ਕਾਯਉ= ਕਾਯਾਹੀ, ਕਾਇਆਂਹੀ, ਸਰੀਰ= Body।ਕਾਇਅਉ = ਕਾਇਆਹੀ(from body।ਦੇਵਲ = {Skt. देव-आलय} ਦੇਵਾਲਾ, ਮੰਦਰ(Temple।ਜੰਗਮ = ਸ਼ਿਵ-ਉਪਾਸ਼ਕਰਮਤੇਜੋਗੀ, ਜਿਨ੍ਹਾਂਨੇਸਿਰਉਤੇਮੋਰਾਂਦੇਖੰਭਬੱਧੇਹੁੰਦੇਹਨ(devotee of Shiv।ਜਾਤੀ = ਜਾਤ੍ਰੀ= traveler(of pilgrimage।ਨਈਬੇਦਾ = ਦੁੱਧਦੀਖੀਰਆਦਿਕਸੁਆਦਲੇਭੋਜਨ, ਜੋਮੂਰਤੀਦੀਭੇਟਕੀਤੇਜਾਣ=oblation like Kheer etc।ਪੂਜਉ = ਮੈਂਪੂਜਦਾਹਾਂ I worship।ਪਤੀ = ਪੱਤਰ (ਆਦਿਕਭੇਟਧਰਕੇ)= leaf(offering in worship।੧। (ਸੋ) ਕਾਇਆਂ (ਦੀਖੋਜ) ਹੀਮੇਰਾਦੇਵਤਾਹੈ (ਜਿਸਦੀਮੈਂਆਰਤੀਕਰਨੀਹੈ), ਸਰੀਰ (ਦੀਖੋਜ) ਹੀਮੇਰਾਮੰਦਰਹੈ (ਜਿਥੇਮੈਂਸਰੀਰਅੰਦਰਵੱਸਦੇਪ੍ਰਭੂਦੀਆਰਤੀਕਰਦਾਹਾਂ), ਕਾਇਆਂ (ਦੀਖੋਜ) ਹੀਮੈਂਜੰਗਮਅਤੇਜਾਤ੍ਰੂਲਈ (ਤੀਰਥਦੀਜਾਤ੍ਰਾਹੈ)।ਸਰੀਰ (ਦੀਖੋਜ) ਹੀ (ਮੇਰੇਵਾਸਤੇਮੇਰੇਅੰਦਰਵੱਸਦੇਦੇਵਤੇਲਈ)ਧੂਪਦੀਪਤੇਨੈਵੇਦਹੈ, ਕਾਇਆਦੀਖੋਜ (ਕਰਕੇ) ਹੀ, ਮੈਂਮਾਨੋ, ਪੱਤਰਭੇਟਰੱਖਕੇ (ਆਪਣੇਅੰਦਰਵੱਸਦੇਇਸ਼ਟਦੇਵਦੀ) ਪੂਜਾਕਰਰਿਹਾਹਾਂ।੧। [ Searching body within is my devta(of whose – God pervading within-I do Artee) its search is my temple (where I do Artee of God). Search of body is my pilgrimage as of Shiv -devotee. Search of the body is my incense and oblation and its search is like offering of flower-leaves as I am worshiping (God-within)] ਕਾਇਆਬਹੁਖੰਡਖੋਜਤੇਨਵਨਿਧਿਪਾਈ॥ਨਾਕਛੁਆਇਬੋਨਾਕਛੁਜਾਇਬੋਰਾਮਕੀਦੁਹਾਈ॥੧॥ਰਹਾਉ॥ Kā▫i▫ā baho kẖand kẖojṯe nav niḏẖ pā▫ī.Nā kacẖẖ ā▫ibo nā kacẖẖ jā▫ibo rām kī ḏuhā▫ī. ||1|| rahā▫o. In Essence:. After searching many regions, in body I have found the nine treasures. With God;s grace now(for me) neither any one comes nor goes.(pause) If all is Him how He can take birth and then die? All actually is His show- creating it, ending it and recreating it. This fact is made clearer in Bhagat ji’s next Vaak. I have searched many regions and it is only in the body that I have found the nine treasures.Since I have invoked the mercy of Lord, there is no coming and no going. Pause. ਬਹੁਖੰਡ = ਦੇਸਦੇਸਾਂਤਰ=regions।ਨਵਨਿਧਿ = (ਨਾਮ-ਰੂਪ) ਨੌਖ਼ਜ਼ਾਨੇ=nine treasues।ਆਇਬੋ = ਜੰਮੇਗਾ takes birth।ਜਾਇਬੋ = ਮਰੇਗਾ=die।ਦੁਹਾਈ = ਤੇਜਪ੍ਰਤਾਪ= Grace of divine knowledge/ positive influence।੧।ਰਹਾਉ। ਦੇਸਦੇਸਾਂਤਰਾਂਨੂੰਖੋਜਕੇ (ਆਖ਼ਰਆਪਣੇ) ਸਰੀਰਦੇਅੰਦਰਹੀਮੈਂਪ੍ਰਭੂਦਾਨਾਮ-ਰੂਪਨੌਨਿਧੀਲੱਭਲਈਹੈ, (ਹੁਣਮੇਰੀਕਾਇਆਂਵਿਚ) ਪਰਮਾਤਮਾ (ਦੀਯਾਦ) ਦਾਹੀਤੇਜ-ਪ੍ਰਤਾਪਹੈ, (ਉਸਦੀਬਰਕਤਿਨਾਲਮੇਰੇਲਈ) ਨਾਕੁਝਜੰਮਦਾਹੈਨਾਹਮਰਦਾਹੈ (ਭਾਵ, ਮੇਰਾਜਨਮਮਰਨਮਿਟਗਿਆਹੈ)।੧।ਰਹਾਉ।[ after searching different regions(at last) I have found nine treasures of Naam of God.(now in my body) in the memory of God, His positive influence exists(because of this divine awareness) for me, neither any one comes nor goes(dies)(pause) Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=25050 WHY? ਜੋਬ੍ਰਹਮੰਡੇਸੋਈਪਿੰਡੇਜੋਖੋਜੈਸੋਪਾਵੈ॥ਪੀਪਾਪ੍ਰਣਵੈਪਰਮਤਤੁਹੈਸਤਿਗੁਰੁਹੋਇਲਖਾਵੈ॥੨॥੩॥ Jo barahmanḏe so▫ī pinde jo kẖojai so pāvai.Pīpā paraṇvai param ṯaṯ hai saṯgur ho▫e lakẖāvai. ||2||3|| In Essence: The God, who is in the universe, is in the body, the one who searches Him, finds Him. Pipa humbly says that the true Guru shows Akalpurakh (within) So there is no other than Him and this fact is made realized by True Guru as one sees Him within He, who is in the universe, that also abides in the body and whoever seeks, he finds Him there.Prays Pipa, "The Lord is the supreme quintessence of all. When there is the True Guru, he revealeth His unto us". ਪਿੰਡੇ = ਸਰੀਰਵਿਚ=in the body।ਪਾਵੈ = ਲੱਭਲੈਂਦਾਹੈ=finds/obtain।ਪ੍ਰਣਵੈ = ਬੇਨਤੀਕਰਦਾਹੈ=humbly says।ਪਰਮਤਤੁ = ਪਰਮਆਤਮਾ, ਪਰਮਾਤਮਾ, ਸਭਤੋਂਵੱਡੀਅਸਲੀਅਤ, ਪਰਲੇਤੋਂਪਰਲਾਤੱਤ, ਸ੍ਰਿਸ਼ਟੀਦਾਅਸਲਸੋਮਾ=Akalpurakh।ਲਖਾਵੈ = ਜਣਾਉਂਦਾਹੈ=reveals/shows।੨।੧। Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=25050 ਪੀਪਾਬੇਨਤੀਕਰਦਾਹੈ-ਜੋਸ੍ਰਿਸ਼ਟੀਦਾਰਚਣਹਾਰਪਰਮਾਤਮਾਸਾਰੇਬ੍ਰਹਮੰਡਵਿਚ (ਵਿਆਪਕ) ਹੈਉਹੀ (ਮਨੁੱਖਾ) ਸਰੀਰਵਿਚਹੈ, ਜੋਮਨੁੱਖਖੋਜਕਰਦਾਹੈਉਹਉਸਨੂੰਲੱਭਲੈਂਦਾਹੈ, ਜੇਸਤਿਗੁਰੂਮਿਲਪਏਤਾਂ (ਅੰਦਰਹੀ) ਦਰਸ਼ਨਕਰਾਦੇਂਦਾਹੈ।੨।੧[ Pipa humbly says that the creator is present in all universe, and the same One is in the body. The one, who seeks Him, finds Him. If true Guru is met, he shows Him (within] The Shabad is about the omnipresence of Akalpurakh that permeates in His creation, and He should be searched within instead of falling fir religious-rites . Note. Translation of S. Manmohan Sngh ji and translation of Dr Sahib Singh's interpretation is alo provided. Regards G singh | | The following member appreciates pk70 Ji for the above message. | | 
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