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Tejwant singh ji

The number of people working in Call centers and IT fields are still very small compare to Indian population.The concept of live in relatioinship still exist on paper for majority.My brother has just joined and he told me that almost every person in his company is very much traditional.Some Girls do have B/Fs
but they don't have physical relationship with them.One Girl Who is my brother's best friend ,it takes 2 years to tell her that her parents are divorced and only on that condition that my brother will not tell this to anybody as She will become subject of gossip in class.So there is hardly any way one can compare India What happened in USA in 60s or 70s.
Kanwardeep Singh ji,

Guru Fateh.

Let's try some facts here and I know you are the kind of the person who loves facts and numbers. As, you live in India, can you share with us that how many people work in Call Centers, IT filed, Hotel Management, in investments banks? How many hold MBA's, CPA's and work in international companies in different fields? Once you share the numbers, then we can talk further about it.

Secondly, I am surprised that a friend of your brother's shared her secret with him and told him not to tell anyone. He in return shared it with you and now you are sharing it with the whole world in an open forum? May I know the moral reasons of your sharing this?

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Let's try some facts here and I know you are the kind of the person who loves facts and numbers. As, you live in India, can you share with us that how many people work in Call Centers, IT filed, Hotel Management, in investments banks? How many hold MBA's, CPA's and work in international companies in different fields? Once you share the numbers, then we can talk further about it.

Secondly, I am surprised that a friend of your brother's shared her secret with him and told him not to tell anyone. He in return shared it with you and now you are sharing it with the whole world in an open forum? May I know the moral reasons of your sharing this?

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http://www.nasscom.in/Nasscom/templa....aspx?id=58639
Industry will continue to be a net hirer; direct employment expected to grow by 4 percent and cross 2.3 million with over 90,000 jobs added in FY09-10

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Now in a country of 1.3 billion 2.3 million is like a peanut ,The number of Mba's and others employed are much lower.As far as degree's are concerned it does not how many hold degree as degree's in India are piece of paper unless you do it from reputable college.

As far as sharing secret is concerend I am surprised that you are blaming me.
Neither I mentioned my brother's name not I mentioned Girl's name,so How am I sharing secret with world.Unless you share personal details on forums one cannot say that you are disclosing secret
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Industry will continue to be a net hirer; direct employment expected to grow by 4 percent and cross 2.3 million with over 90,000 jobs added in FY09-10

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Now in a country of 1.3 billion 2.3 million is like a peanut ,The number of Mba's and others employed are much lower.As far as degree's are concerned it does not how many hold degree as degree's in India are piece of paper unless you do it from reputable college.
Kanwardeep Singh ji,

Guru fateh.

Thanks for the numbers. It is not a small amount and if I am not mistaken these numbers only relate to the IT sector. Correct me if I am wrong. This number does not include the hirings in petro chemical sectors, banking, insurance and expanding domestic industry. If we add those, the number becomes much bigger.

There is another news below which also relates to the IT and BPO sectors:

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ndia needs around 2.3 million IT/BPO workers by 2010 to retain its current global market share. The domestic retail and BPO market will need an additional 3.2 million and 1.5 million ACS graduates respectively three years from now.
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On the face of it, the NCAER's India Science Report has a lot of good news for those feeling depressed about India's education sector, particularly those bemoaning the decline of interest in science subjects.
The India Science Report, for instance, shows that India had a total of 48.7 million graduates in 2004, up sharply from 20.5 million in 1991. And while just around 29 per cent of those enrolled for graduate courses went in for science in 1995-96, this is now up to 35 per cent.


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The whole point of my post is that India is growing leaps and bounds and this financial power that the youths are attaining breed freedom which leads to alcoholism and sex. There is no denying in that and it is happening at quite a fast pace in India. Sex is not a taboo in India as far as Indian girls who work are concerned.

It is rather futile to talk about the stats between the population and the number of working youths. Yes, India has a long way to go as far as getting rid of poverty is concerned but that is not the point. India has more working youths and ever expanding middle class than the populations of many countries put together in the west. Same goes for the cell phone and internet users. These are mere facts and can not be ignored. The local industry like hospitality, food, new consumer products start growing due to that. In this way India is different than China which is totally export oriented. India and Brazil have very strong local consumer markets.

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As far as sharing secret is concerend I am surprised that you are blaming me.
Neither I mentioned my brother's name not I mentioned Girl's name,so How am I sharing secret with world.Unless you share personal details on forums one cannot say that you are disclosing secret
Probably it is a cultural thing. I have no idea why would your brother share some secret with you that is dear and important to his friend and he was told that in a trustful manner. Why would he break her trust is beyond me. Secondly, I do not understand why would you mention the details of the secret. Names do not matter. It is the ethical side I am talking about. I apologise, if I have offended you.

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Tejwant Singh
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The whole point of my post is that India is growing leaps and bounds and this financial power that the youths are attaining breed freedom which leads to alcoholism and sex. There is no denying in that and it is happening at quite a fast pace in India. Sex is not a taboo in India as far as Indian girls who work are concerned.
I am sorry to say Tejwant Singh ji but you have lot of misconception about Indian society.
Sex is very very much taboo even for Girls that work.It is only a small section of Hi fi society of India Where Girls do sex .The majority of people that engages in pre marital sex are from rich society of India where parents give truck load of money (black) in the hands of cHildren.These youngsters drive SUVs do partying and there is no job in India Where a youngsters can buy SUV at young age.

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Probably it is a cultural thing. I have no idea why would your brother share some secret with you that is dear and important to his friend and he was told that in a trustful manner. Why would he break her trust is beyond me. Secondly, I do not understand why would you mention the details of the secret. Names do not matter. It is the ethical side I am talking about. I apologise, if I have offended you.

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Me and my brother Share a very special relationship and he Share each and everything
with me.I mentioned that point just to point out that how conservative is socity is even among young people
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The whole point of my post is that India is growing leaps and bounds and this financial power that the youths are attaining breed freedom which leads to alcoholism and sex. There is no denying in that and it is happening at quite a fast pace in India. Sex is not a taboo in India as far as Indian girls who work are concerned.
Now coming to point of financial power of Youth.Let me tell majority of industry you mention recruit youth with take home salary 10,000 to 25,000 per month .Only if you are very lucky or have done course from very prestigious college's then only you could get higher but with very difficulty.The reason I am telling this is because these days I am seeing frustration of my brother for not securing high paying despite being one of the best techie.Even his friends are in same boat.Anyway with this amount you can barely afford a room ,a two wheeler and very few things.Also in middle class Girls are not allowed to spent much of their salary as that salary is saved for the marriage gift to her husband.Parents keep strict check on their accounts.
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Tejwant Ji,
So much of what you say is what I have observed in India over the years. I believe a big part is the influence of the meida/Bollywood and Hollywood. I think all the trees in Bollywood have been chopped down It has not brought greater happiness to the Westerners who are now turning to alcohol and drugs or spirituality. The same will happen to Indians-things go in circles
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/legal-and-advisory/33219-live-partners-can-t-complain-infidelity.html

My family lives in a very conservative city. Yet there for many years now there is a well known lovers lane near the lake where young couples go smooching in the evenings. The girls wear a hijab whether muslim or not so they can hide their identities from nosey people as they ride around with boyfriends. These are conservative folk from all backgrounds hiding behind parents back
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=33219
And yet I'm the one being judged for being from abroad!!!
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So much of what you say is what I have observed in India over the years. I believe a big part is the influence of the meida/Bollywood and Hollywood. I think all the trees in Bollywood have been chopped down It has not brought greater happiness to the Westerners who are now turning to alcohol and drugs or spirituality. The same will happen to Indians-things go in circles

My family lives in a very conservative city. Yet there for many years now there is a well known lovers lane near the lake where young couples go smooching in the evenings. The girls wear a hijab whether muslim or not so they can hide their identities from nosey people as they ride around with boyfriends. These are conservative folk from all backgrounds hiding behind parents back
And yet I'm the one being judged for being from abroad!!!
Lovers lane, lovers park exists in almost each city small town of India,but main question is What is the percentage of Girls that engages in these type of activity 5,10,15,25 or above 50 .Indian population is so large that even if small percentage engage in that activity even then it looks big.Various surveys have put percentage of Girls engage's in pre marital sexual activity between 5 to 15 % so I think it is around 10% .Now the main question is can we say on the basis of 10% that pre marital sex is no longer tabboo ?

The reason people say that you are from abroad is because percentage in abroad is much high so its obvious It is difficult for people to beleive that Girl didn't have B/F if she is living in UK
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Kanwardeep Ji,
Your response highlights 2 things:
1-people in India are quick to judge without looking at individual person. Just because I am from UK doesn't mean I follow everything my peers do.
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2-there is change happening. as you said in another thread you have to look at the population as a whole. As a whole the trend is moving away from traditional values. This does not mean everyone thinks like that, just like not everyone in UK/USA/Peru or anywhere else follows the majority in that country but only after accepting the truth that pre-marital relations/aversion to wedlock is becoming MORE common and acceptable, can causes and solutions be found. Denying there is an issue is encouraging it to develop further. Maybe people need to make their own mistakes or maybe not-not for me to decide. All I know is that the problems in the UK should not be repeated in India as social consequences are worse. This country has the highest rate of teenage pregnancies in the world and that is not a happy statistic!
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Kanwardeep Ji,
Your response highlights 2 things:
1-people in India are quick to judge without looking at individual person. Just because I am from UK doesn't mean I follow everything my peers do.
2-there is change happening. as you said in another thread you have to look at the population as a whole. As a whole the trend is moving away from traditional values. This does not mean everyone thinks like that, just like not everyone in UK/USA/Peru or anywhere else follows the majority in that country but only after accepting the truth that pre-marital relations/aversion to wedlock is becoming MORE common and acceptable, can causes and solutions be found. Denying there is an issue is encouraging it to develop further. Maybe people need to make their own mistakes or maybe not-not for me to decide. All I know is that the problems in the UK should not be repeated in India as social consequences are worse. This country has the highest rate of teenage pregnancies in the world and that is not a happy statistic!
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Indians were enslaved by Britishers ,that's why Some Indians always look
White's as their role models.This problem is much in Big cities like bombay and Delhi and also much more common in High income group Families.They beleive that whatever white's do is prgressive while Indians are backward,more over we have our film stars who for cheap publicity give comments or you can say promote these type of Relationship so it is natural whatever happened in UK could happen in Indian big cities but with very small section of people.A very large part of India is still very much conservative and could even become voilent as we hear about honour killings almost every other day
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