Sat Sri Akal

Tejwant Singh · #28 (**permalink**) 21-May-2010, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Charan

Hey, everyone following the kheera/thaar discussion

.. my mom told me that "thaar" and "kheera" are not the same vegetable. They belong to the same family, but "thaar" is apparently a special type of cucumber, not the normal long ones.

Your mom is right. Turh- thaar is called Mexican cucumber. Turh is much lighter in colour and has no skin that needs peeling unlike kheera. One can buy Turhs at Mexican grocery stores. And Kheera is the cucumber that we all know about.

Tejwant Singh · #29 (**permalink**) 21-May-2010, 10:51 AM

Those who love -choliyah- can also get it in the Mexican food markets. Choliyah is green garbanzo bean in a pod. And they are sold just in pods without the leaves and the soft twigs like in Punjab. I love them.

Tejwant Singh · #30 (**permalink**) 21-May-2010, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Charan

Tejwant ji and Ugsbay ji, do you guys really believe that Indian Punjabi sounds rough and crude? In my opinion, any language from any region can sound rough and crude. It depends on the individual speaking it. My point is that all languages are initially beautiful, it is the individual who either ruins them or makes them more beautiful.

Charan ji,

Guru Fateh.

The smoothness of a language depends on the enunciation and the kind of words to express the same meaning. It is my personal opinion that the Rawalpindi dialect of Punjabi is lyrically poetic as compared to Punjabi spoken in Punjab, India.

When I used to live in Ferozepore,my hometown, we used to get Pakistani TV Channels and I am talking about the late 60's. The Punjabi in their soap operas sounded much sweeter to the ears than on this side of the border somehow.

Tejwant Singh

Roop Kaur · #31 (**permalink**) 21-May-2010, 21:34 PM

SSA All !

Ok ... firstly, we say 'Kheera' - mmmm yummy

Also ... I actually say some words from 'standard punjabi' and some from 'doaba' dialect (which is apparantly what we speak) .. and yes charan ji, i also say 'aa' and 'sigey'
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/learn-punjabi/29715-sat-sri-akal.html

I'm really enjoying this discussion!!

Charan · #32 (**permalink**) 21-May-2010, 22:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Tejwant Singh

The smoothness of a language depends on the enunciation and the kind of words to express the same meaning.
Tejwant Singh

True.

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Originally Posted by Tejwant Singh

It is my personal opinion that the Rawalpindi dialect of Punjabi is lyrically poetic as compared to Punjabi spoken in Punjab, India. Tejwant Singh

I don't know what Rawalpindi dialect sounds like, but if it is as you describe it, it's probably very nice. Maybe you can share a video where someone speaks Rawalpindi dialect?

But I still don't think it's fair to say that Indian Punjabi is rough and crude... Hmm..Let's agree to disagree 8-)

Charan · #33 (**permalink**) 21-May-2010, 22:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Roop Kaur

I'm really enjoying this discussion!!

Me too!

ugsbay · #34 (**permalink**) 21-May-2010, 22:54 PM

SSA,
Charan Ji its a Regional thing and you are right its the people speaking it that can make it what it is. I just find some Regions sound very Articulate than others but yes they are all nice. I like the Punjabi "Gurdass Mann" speaks & sings that i can call Beautiful. Thankyou for letting me know about the THAAR. The more i think of the word Thaar the more it sounds like a "Wire" now....

roopsidhu · #35 (**permalink**) 24-May-2010, 01:04 AM

SSA,
Deepsingh ji, Narayanjot ji explained very well by dividing it into two catagories. I will suggest one small and simple thing. Why don't you try typing your posts in this thread in roman punjabi. All of us can try to write back the same way. Theek hai na ji. Ho sakda hai ih desi treeka vi kamm aa javey.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=29715
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=29715
roopsidhu

Narayanjot Kaur · #36 (**permalink**) 24-May-2010, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by roopsidhu

SSA,
Deepsingh ji, Narayanjot ji explained very well by dividing it into two catagories. I will suggest one small and simple thing. Why don't you try typing your posts in this thread in roman punjabi. All of us can try to write back the same way. Theek hai na ji. Ho sakda hai ih desi treeka vi kamm aa javey.
roopsidhu

roop sidhu ji

Please no writing in Punjabi. The official language of the forum is English. If you want it is fine to write in Punjabi with an English translation. Please forgive me.