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Comments are welcomed on how Jews are similar to Sikhs in prayers, traditions, history, human right issues, up-bringing, proverbs, looks, etc.
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Over the Sikh holy book was a beautifully embroidered cover much like Jews covering their Torah. On top was a canopy, which is what we use during weddings and when transferring the Torah from one place to another.
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After services the Sikhs have a "lenger" - a community meal. The Jews have a "kiddush".

(Source: jerusalem wanderings: Similarities between the Sikhs and Jews)

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Respected Begum,

Please study Sikh religion and as u already know about your religion, kindly bring out more similarites. All religions teach the same thing but now I am interested to know abour Jews way of religion.
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Respected Rajinder Ji,
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Your comment has led me to search and find this :

"see every thing is in joon - plants, spices, stones, planets, stars etc all hv aatma which is next end of there muun. and the largest jooni (which is combination of all these joonis) is Universe. So the aatma of universe is paramaatma."

If I were to understand this statement correctly, it would reduce us to just being cells working together in clusters towards a common goal in the body called Universe. So no matter what we do, we are in fact, existing under HIS HUKAM.

hukmai ander sabh ko,
bahar hukam na koye.

It is good to respect each other's view whether it be at individual level or religions. Thank you for you comment that all religions teach the same thing.
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More similarities
Their marriage ceremony used to last 7 days - similar to Jewish wedding celebrations where you would have 7 days of special festive dinners in different places after the wedding. But now the Sikhs have dwindled it down to just one day.

Their prayer book looked like a Jewish book of Psalms, only much shorter.
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Video clip of Jews living in old Russia:
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When Jews Wore Turbans

It would seem that most Canadian Jews were pleased with the Supreme Court of Canada decision, a few years ago, upholding the Sikhs' right to wear turbans in the Royal Canadian Mounted Police ("RCMP"). After all, many of us also have vested interests in keeping our heads covered as part of our own traditional religious observances. A skull-cap is of course easier to accommodate than a turban, as it may be discreetly placed underneath a Mountie hat.
But some of our ancestors were also turban-wearers. As with many items in Jewish history, this fact continues to affect us in some surprising ways.
To take a rather simple example: the daily prayers recited by observant Jews include a benediction praising God "Who crowns Israel with glory."

(Full article: World Sikh News - When Jews Wore Turbans)

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it has been the practice among many Jews to wear a beard and sidelocks (pe'ot). The Talmud describes the beard as an "adornment of the face" and implies that a beardless man cannot be said to be handsome.

In the kabbalah [mysticism], the beard is said to represent on earth the "beard of the Holy Ancient One" on high, that is, the stage in the unfolding of the sefirot [divine emanations] at which the divine grace, symbolized by the strands of the beard, begins to flow throughout all creation. In kabbalistic circles the beard becomes a sacred object and some kabbalists would not even remove a single hair from their beard. The statement that, according to the kabbalah, there is no need to wear a beard outside the Holy Land, is unwarranted. Hasidism follows the kabbalah and all Hasidim wear long beards and sidelocks.
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Five articles as embracing the chief tenets of Mosaism:
  1. God is and rules;
  2. God is one;
  3. the world was created;
  4. Creation is one;
  5. God's providence rules Creation.
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Sikhs and Jews - separated at birth?By LAUREN GELFOND FELDINGER - Jerusalem Post - Jewish World
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All the Holy Land faiths found connections with the Punjabi Sikhs, but Jewish groups felt a surprise affinity.
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The monotheistic Sikhs are a religious and ethnic group, a minority - like the Jews - who have suffered generations of persecution and worries about assimilation, intermarriage and keeping the religion relevant to their youth.

They revere their scriptures as the ultimate guru, teacher and source of enlightenment. Written without punctuation, numbered verses are used to track the readings and to bind those who have lived in Diaspora as a result of exile. The text mentions 1,100 names of God, an entity without gender or form. God, known as "The Ultimate Reality," may not be pictured in two or three-dimensional art. Every person, regardless of faith, is said to contain sparks of the divine and anyone can lead prayers; there are no clerics.

Marriage and having children are considered divine activities and infidelity is forbidden. Though many Sikhs avoid substances that may harm the body or mind, early Sikhs rejected ascetic self-denial and observe a commandment to rejoice in God's name. Hard and honest work is considered a good deed, as is service to the Sikh and larger community, the place of worship and the unfortunate.

Ten percent of their earnings and a portion of their time should be allotted to charity. Sikhs around the world consider each other family and in the Diaspora they have created vibrant Sikh communities worldwide.

The highest attributes are divided into acts of faith in God - as in prayer and meditation - and acts of loving kindness toward fellow humans. Despite an accent on mercy and compassion, violence is permitted in special circumstances, such as self-defense, and Sikhs are known as good warriors, aspiring to be "saint-soldiers." Sikhs don't cut their facial (or head) hair as a sign of respect to God's will and as a mark of distinction.
Nonetheless, there are marked differences between Sikhs and Jews. Sikhs emphasize karma and reincarnation, practice cremation and have outlawed fasting.

The Sikh faith was founded in the late 15th century in northern India by Guru Nanak, who preached tolerance and equality for every person, regardless of caste, religion or gender. These ideas were always on his mind as a boy growing up Hindu, but crystallized after he mysteriously disappeared in the River Bein. According to tradition, he emerged after three days, saying that God is the one being, transcendent and without form, and that "there is no Hindu; there is no Muslim."

There were 10 gurus in succession; the final one declared that the holy book, the Guru Granth Sahib, is the final and eternal guru. Today, the main body of Orthodox Sikhism upholds this belief, while divergent streams claim to have a living guru in human form.
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jews, sikhs , christians, hindus, muslims, pagans....how similar are they..!!!
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jews, sikhs , christians, hindus, muslims, pagans....how similar are they..!!!

Homo sapiens !!
Come to Ingland...many Sikhs and Muslims don't share your views to put it mildly!
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veer ji

i have been there...i can see no difference in any colours or religions...
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do you?
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I've live here. There are major differences in attitudes, views, characteristics. Being back home wouldn't really expose you to this and nor would a short visit here.

Pretending no differences exist between communities is living a lie.

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