My Interaction With Some Muslim Friends

Leeji

maybe it is supposed to take a lifetime, as once we have understood, we have no place on earth anymore
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Harry Haller veer ji, it is the other way around.

Ambersariaji,
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Allow me to explain myself, we are all humans, and every now and then I spot a post here from some enlightened soul who appears to have found the bliss in being gurmukh, and with some , I cannot help but notice signs of addiction to this bliss, ie, in an ascetic like fashion, all other worldy stimuli seems pointless, they desire only the presence of waheguru, and everything else is unimportant, I feel therefore that it must be very hard to balance this bliss with living, which is why I made my post,
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However, the feelings you speak of above compliment living rather than compete against it, they make much sense. You actually wrote an excellent post which I printed and stuck up on my wall, however, lately I have required clarification on a few points, so I will repost it with my questions in a new thread, I look forward to your reply

sat sri akal

Harry Haller veer ji great idea about a new thread.

I believe I am getting closer in my own mind to the understanding part. However ther are two parts needed and there is the challenge,

1. Understanding
2. Living in consonance with the understanding
   • This I find unachievable for myself in what time I have left. One can keep improving and keep getting better and through this one will get bliss, contentment, peace, etc.

Always great to discourse with you.

Have a wonderful day.
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Sat Sri Akal.

Passingby ji
There is a basic difference among Abrahamic and Indic religions in the school of thought in the way we regard our scriptures.
For Muslims the Quran is a rule book sent by Allah and it is to be followed word by word. Weather they do it or not is another issue.
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Sufism focuses a great deal on the love of God and one's relation with Him. Sufis sing and dance and write poetry keeping the Lord in mind. For some other sects like Wahhabis music is haram.

For us Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji is a guide but not a rule book.

Like you I too have met some Pakistani Muslims on the internet and most of them have similar views and little knowledge about other faiths.

I think what the Gurus tried to show us is that there is just a truth, a God that is above our quarrels.

The Gurus showed us a way to meditate on a name so we could get closer. They taught us most and foremost that God is truth and that there could be many ways to him/her.

They showed us to not be scared and to stand up for our beliefs.

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There are 30 million of us Sikhi in the world and we pride ourselves on being noble warriors. ...We can fight in many ways not just the sword.

Whatever....there is a fairness and honesty instilled in us all...we believe in truth ...whatever form that will take...we have 10 brave wise teachers who whatever fear they might have had..they believed in the love that our gracious God had.

A video of some Sikhs who were noble .....

I would like to get to know Sufism more....thank you for bringing it up

lionsingh ji perhaps some info in the following section,

http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sufism/

Sat Sri Akal.

Guru Gobind in his wisdom knew the status of the turban..It was reserved for the Rajputs and mungal nobility. He needed to awaken a people ...so not did he just make all equal with the name Singh ...to be a warrior...he bestowed upon them the turban...the mark of nobility.
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No Sikh could hide and at that time wearing a turban was punishable by death. He made all men the same caste and all kings. Of course,the powers did not accept it..It was an affront to society and class privilege.

Sikhs have always stood up and never hide. We are a proud people...but we are not herons

“Seeing the swans swimming, the herons wanted to do it too. But the poor herons drowned and died, and floated with their heads down and their feet up.”

We wont do that. We cant. We are Lions and will stand up proud.

“If I had known that he was only a wretched heron from birth, I would not have touched him.”
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and to ask you for forgiveness for my rudeness I will just quote as I do not have the wise words ..you to understand me “With his stubborn mind, he begs, and grabs, and annoys those who give.”




As I was advised by a dear Guru

“O mind, do not be anxious remain fearless.”

which I strive to do

“My conversation is with the Lord s Name, and my counseling is with the Lord s Name, the Lord s Name always takes care of me.”


we have a lot we agree to..if you would look and see.

“Through their stubborn mindedness, and by wearing their disguises"



I apologise as i have learnt

“The fools take pride in themselves, and are ruined in birth and death.”

Forgive me for my sins

“Let all bow in reverence, to that humble being whose heart is pure within.”