Message to Muslims: I'm Sorry

spnadmin · #10 (**permalink**) 11-Nov-2010, 11:22 AM

YouTube - Bhai Kanhaiya Ji: The First Red Cross

Aman Singh · #11 (**permalink**) 11-Nov-2010, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by spnadmin

ibs ji

I stand accused of being all that. And the poster of the article was Tejwant Singh ji, and I am certain he will reply in time.

There were two links to the English Defense League site on a certain post by lionsingh ji. The post containing the links was moved out of the forum, after I made a determination that the content of the entire site was in its own curious way both inflammatory and unintelligible. The moderation team will decide whether to move them back or not and I hope the decision is to keep them out of view.

It has been a struggle for lionsingh to state his case without accusing various individuals of "flipping" over to Islam.

lionsingh has not been banned. He is making a drama out of the rejection of his temperamental language, and making demons of those who disagree with him. These are tactics that have been used from time immemorial in order to put a match to issues that did not have to become battles in the first place.

We need to feel compassion for lionsingh because he has forgotten the moral of the story of Bhai Kanhaiya. Guru Gobind Singh embraced him for giving water to injured Muslim soldiers even when other lieutenants wanted to boot him out of the panth. Compassion is one thing. Acceptance is something different.

Lionsingh also seems to have even more difficulty expressing himself on the EDL site than he does here. Thanks for the heads-up. In a way though you have managed to do his posting for him

Very well summed up by spnadmin ji.

Lionsingh brags to have served Amnesty, Red Cross for like 20+ yrs (which i surely doubt!) and that means he should have a mass over and in between his shoulders of a matured person of over 45 yrs but if we analyze his style of expression, he does not even qualify for a juvenile uneducated Pindoo! He urgently needs to take some English writing lessons from his counterparts on EDL.

My apologies for going down to the level of Lionsingh and his Chamchaas!

Take a Chill Pill Dudes!

SachaSingh · #12 (**permalink**) 28-Jan-2011, 00:06 AM

Dear Tejwant Singh Ji, I am new to this forum and am so glad that I came upon your article. Its so refreshing and positive. Please keep writing like that and we need more young people like yourself who are preapared to stick their necks out and speak the truth. After all being Sikh means speaking the truth.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/islam/32311-message-to-muslims-im-sorry.html
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=32311

But in these times of increasing divisions and distrust between different communities its sometimes easy to forget that we are all human beings. As you have already said, we must never blame actions of a few extreamists upon the countless innocent.

Ambarsaria · #13 (**permalink**) 28-Jan-2011, 00:50 AM

SachaSingh ji the article is not written by Tejwant Singh ji. He posted it for the benefit of SPN members and it is a well written article. The original author and other information below,

Message to Muslims: I’m Sorry
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=32311
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=32311

By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF

Published: September 18, 2010

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/19/op...R_AP_LO_MST_FB

People like Lionsingh and such need to complain to the original source, if they so wish, and not to spners.

We all share articles which we think may be of value to others in our own judgement and for goodness and thought provoking reasons.

Welcome and post more, as appropriate, and enjoy.

Sat Sri Akal.

Ambarsaria · #14 (**permalink**) 28-Jan-2011, 03:54 AM

If someone wants to connect the dots ...... extremist double plays and manipulation including Hinduism extreme elements

http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/canada...pan-issue.html
http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/canada...s-muslims.html
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=32311
http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/canada...-has-come.html
The article below about Shiv Sena,
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http://www.deccanherald.com/content/...burqa-ban.html

Shiv Sena demands burqa ban Mumbai, Oct 19, DH News Service:

The Shiv Sena has demanded a ban on the burqa, citing an incident where a burqa-clad woman stole a two-month-old child from a hospital here.
“If the burqa is to be used to steal children, then we demand that it be banned as per law,” an editorial in party mouthpiece “Saamna” said.

Referring to France risking the wrath of the Islamic world by banning the burqa and other full-body robes worn by some Muslim women, the editorial said the French president took a “revolutionary step” to ban the burqa. “When burqa was banned in Turkey by Kemal Pasha, Islam did not come in between. Why only is it so in India,” it said.

The Shiv Sena, particularly its newly appointed Yuva Sena chief Aditya Thackeray, is facing flak over forcing Mumbai University to drop Rohinton Mistry’s book “Such A Long Journey” for alleged derogatory references to Maharashtra and Marathi Manoos.

However, Mistry has voiced dismay over Mumbai University providing “deluxe service via express delivery” in quickly dropping his Booker Prize nominated book from the college syllabus. “A political party demanded a change in syllabus and Mumbai University provided deluxe service via express delivery making the book disappear the very next day. Mumbai University has come perilously close to institutionalising the ugly notion of self-censorship,” Mistry, who is based in Canada, said.

Meanwhile, Maharashtra Chief Minister Ashok Chavan has endorsed the university’s decision. Chavan, who in the past stood against Shiv Sena’s attempts to indulge in moral policing, said: “Whatever language is used in the book is highly abusive.”

A delighted Shiv Sena spokesman Sanjay Raut said: “If the chief minister of the state is also with us, you have to understand that we are right.”

Nevertheless, Chavan said his stand should not be seen as an endorsement of Sena’s cultural and moral policing. The chief minister said these were his personal views and that he would not like to interfere in the affairs of Mumbai University.

“I had not gone through the entire book. Whatever paras were shown to me, I read that, the language is highly abusive. Do we expect our students to go through such books and use them in the educational curriculum,” Chavan told reporters. Chavan also said he found the language in certain portions of the book “highly objectionable”. “There is objectionable language in Rohinton Mistry’s book as well and we wouldn’t approve his book for students,” he said.

Tejwant Singh · #15 (**permalink**) 28-Jan-2011, 10:27 AM

Dear Sadh Sangat,

Guru Fateh.

After Lion Singh's ranting here, I joined the EDL group so I could go to "Lion's den" and confront him at his own home turf. I thought that was the only way to confront him directly.Following is my only post in that forum:

http://s1.zetaboards.com/EDL_The_For...3921982/1/#new
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=32311
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=32311

There is also a response from one of the other members of EDL.

Regards

Tejwant Singh

spnadmin · #16 (**permalink**) 28-Jan-2011, 10:48 AM

I just want to make it crystal clear that I am personally prevented from registering on the EDL site. Most likely because my IP is blocked. I have made a PDF copy of the entire conversation. That way we will have a permanent record of that conversation, verbatim. Just in case anything funny happens.

And to repeat once more

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lionsingh has not been banned. He is making a drama out of the rejection of his temperamental language, and making demons of those who disagree with him. These are tactics that have been used from time immemorial in order to put a match to issues that did not have to become battles in the first place.

Gyani Jarnail Singh · #17 (**permalink**) 28-Jan-2011, 13:09 PM

sarcasm..reading between the lines..links as evidence of who wrote what..who posted whose comments on whose behalf...tongue in cheek comments, SERIOUS COMMENTS...all these seem to be "lost" on most posters to Sikh/Punjabi Forums/Mailing Lists. I wonder if its die to language difficulties/lack of exposure/pendoo mentality or whatever....no offense meant or taken.....posters have to take extra care to write very very simple language..or most of whats intended to be conveyed will pass over like water off a duck's back.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=32311
A PM sent to me by a Punjabi who is citizen of UK and residing there for over 25 years had this in the Subject: ARGANT. It didnt sink in until i read the message and the writer wanted an IMIDATE replai. * The Mail is URGENT and needs an IMMEDIATE REPLY.