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| | | | | Re: Taliban beheads Sikhs, protests all over (Slide Show from NDTV) Rana ji
I appreciate that you condemn the acts of the Taliban.
But - Please bone up on your history of Islam. Historically when Muslim forces conquered a country, the vanquished had a three choices: convert, pay the jisya, or die. If you are Taliban and believe in returning to ancient traditions, what difference does it make? A family cannot pay up, according to these rules they must convert or die. If you are from a Sikh family that cannot pay up, what is the difference? You must convert or you die. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/islam/29316-taliban-beheads-sikhs-protests-all-over.htmlReference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=29316
and BTW these men were abducted and held for a lengthy period of time. Their abductors knew what they were doing. Responsibility lies with the perpetrators of this bizarre and atrocious behavior.
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27-Feb-2010, 15:12 PM
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| | | | | Re: Taliban beheads Sikhs, protests all over (Slide Show from NDTV) Only Sikhs can help NRI...... Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=29316
V have been seeing that Taliban is continuously after Sikhs living around pak,Afghanistan,etc.
Soln is that a WAR b declared by Sikhs against pak n Afghanistan for taking back all gurudwaras under sgpc n declaring these regions as integral part of India as they were earlier........... Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=29316 | 
28-Feb-2010, 00:55 AM
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| | | | | Re: Taliban beheads Sikhs, protests all over (Slide Show from NDTV) Re: Taliban beheads Sikhs, protests all over (Slide Show from NDTV) A blatant insult to the SPN community has been deleted. Narayanjot Kaur....even "one incidence" of Sikh Muslim riots in Punjab or even India since 1947.Even in 1947 the incidents happened because of false promises given by the other community and which were never fulfilled. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=29316
Any true Sikh can not start blindly hating the whole muslim community because some people in the USA or the RSS/Hindutva forces in India want us to do so.
At the same time please give in brief any info you have on the following :
1)Bhai Mardana ji
2)Peer Budhu Shah ji
3)Sayeen Mian Mir ji
4)Baba Farid ji Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=29316
5)Bhagat Kabir ji
I'll give more names when info on the above are given.
As far as Taliban is concerned it has immediately owned responsibility for yesterday's bomb blast in Kabul which claimed 9 Indians including 2 Indian Army majors.
We are still awaiting the claim of killing 2 Sikhs in NWFP,Pakistan which leads us to believe that the killings may be the handiwork of criminal gangs demanding ransom for kidnappings.
Here is a cutting from Ajit Punjabi newspaper dated 27-2-2010 :
Some one please translate the last few lines for those who can not read Punjabi. | 
28-Feb-2010, 13:16 PM
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| | | | | Re: Taliban beheads Sikhs, protests all over (Slide Show from NDTV) Narayanjot Kaur Ji Talibans are not "Muslim Conquars" at all they are not suppose to demand Jizia etc from the non-muslims. They are just crimnal gangs mis-representing Islam. Most of them are Al-Qaida members from other countries. I strongly believe that a Muslim king/ruler respect/protect no-muslim worship places and completely safe-guard non-muslims including their properties. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=29316Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=29316
I wait for the Punjabi newspaper English translation as my mother toung is Punjabi but cannopt read. | 
28-Feb-2010, 14:58 PM
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| | | | | Re: Taliban beheads Sikhs, protests all over (Slide Show from NDTV) ranaji
This is what I have posted on another thread, in reply to your exact same comment there.
They are enforcing their twisted need to return to "traditional" ways and habits. Historically the jizia was always imposed on non Muslims -- pay up or die. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=29316
This in today's world would be called extortion or a "protection" racket -- as extracted from small business by underworld gangs, like the Mafia. Again pay for protection or we blow up your house, burn down your store, kidnap your child, threaten your life, rape your wife. The big difference is that the Taliban are dishonoring themselves by doing this in the name of God. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=29316
You say they the Taliban are not supposed to demand Jizya. Well they are demanding it. And what they are doing is a time-honored tradition according to the Quran and Haddith. | 
28-Feb-2010, 20:45 PM
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| | | | | Re: Taliban beheads Sikhs, protests all over (Slide Show from NDTV) Does any one know that the reason why Darbar Sahib,Amritsar was attacked in 1984 was because Darbar Sahib,Amritsar's foundation stone was laid by muslim saint Sayeen Mian Mir and signifies Sikh Muslim friendship .
I am personal witness to Doordarshan tv calling our brave brothers who took on the Indian army during Operation Bluestar in 1984 as "Pakistanis" to cover up the damage which the troops suffered at the the hands of just 250 Sikh fighters. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=29316
Bibi Satnam Kaur(8 years) and Bibi Waheguru Kaur(6 years) were 2 great Sikh daughters of Bhai Mohar Singh "Pandit" who tied explosives on themselves and blew themselves up on an army tank during Operation Bluestar in 1984 as a result of which that tank could not proceed further in the parikrama .It means that Doordarshan called them also "Pakistanis" and some people is this forum are also doing the same.
Just for every one's info Bhai Mohar Singh was born in a hindu family and was very close to Sant Bhindranwale.This is another slap on the face of those propogandists who say that Sant Bhindranwale was anti Hindu . Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=29316
I will again say the days of propoganda and misinforming the public by the media about Sant Bhindranwale and Khalistan movement are over. | 
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| | | | | Re: Taliban beheads Sikhs, protests all over (Slide Show from NDTV) Re: Taliban beheads Sikhs, protests all over (Slide Show from NDTV) Here is the true story of Bibi Satnam Kaur and Bibi Waheguru Kaur whom we respect a lot : Daughters of the Khalsa: Children of Waheguru | 
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| | | | | Re: Taliban beheads Sikhs, protests all over (Slide Show from NDTV) Narayanjot Kaur ji,
Forgive me for saying this but please let me know are you an "White Sikh" ?
I have a reason for asking this and will reveal it when I get the answer . Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=29316
Actually I respect white Sikhs a lot. | 
01-Mar-2010, 01:02 AM
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| | | | | Re: Taliban beheads Sikhs, protests all over (Slide Show from NDTV) Quote:
Originally Posted by kee_jaana_mein_kaun Narayanjot Kaur ji,
Forgive me for saying this but please let me know are you an "White Sikh" ?
I have a reason for asking this and will reveal it when I get the answer .
Actually I respect white Sikhs a lot. |
Kee_jaana_mein_kaun ji
Do you mean by "white Sikh" a follower of International Dharma formerly known as 3HO? if that is what you mean by "white Sikh" then, no, I am not. Though the 3 HO organization has played an important early role in my discovery of Sikhi, and I have a spiritual debt to them, there are aspects of their teaching that I do not subscribe to.
I am just a Gora Sikh who happens to be "white." Actually a kind of medium ivory color. More important -- please do not take this thread off topic with personal discussions. They are interesting but should be addressed through private messages or comments on a member's Visitor Wall. Thanks. | 
01-Mar-2010, 01:14 AM
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| | | | | Re: Taliban beheads Sikhs, protests all over (Slide Show from NDTV) Quote:
Originally Posted by kee_jaana_mein_kaun Narayanjot Kaur ji,Admin or anyone,
Please kindly translate the press clipping and give in brief info about the following :
1)Bhai Mardana ji
2)Peer Budhu Shah ji
3)Sayeen Mian Mir ji
4)Baba Farid ji
5)Bhagat Kabir ji
If you can not then perhaps half of my posts have gone over your head and are you thinking is perhaps influenced by how US media is potraying Sikhs and Khalistan. | kee_jaana_mein_kaun ji
I have to tell you that the US media to my knowledge has rarely covered Sikhs and Khalistan. I cannot think of a single newspaper or television station with a large regional or national market who has addressed this topic. If they have it has been a hit or miss event -- a token program here or there -- and not something I have viewed.
Local news does cover Sikhi related content but only in areas where there are large concentrations of Sikhs. New York City , Hoboken NJ, Freemont CA, Phoenix AZ, Yuba City, CA -- perhaps. In the Chicago and Philadelphia metropolitan areas, in spite of a Sikh presence there is virtually no coverage and a person has to be a detective to find a gurdwara.
Khalistan in the US is covered only in the local Punjabi/Indian press. An ordinary American (not a Sikh) selected at random and questioned about this would profess total ignorance or make up a truly ridiculous fantasy only to have an answer.
Perhaps one exception to this might be the Air India catastrophe -- and that is better known in the Canadian press. P/S I just asked my husband, "What do you know about Khalistan?" He said, "Nothing." Then he changed it to "The promised land for Sikhs." Then I inquired, "How do you know that?" He said, "From you!"
He reads newspapers and has a degree in psychology, with graduate work in computer technology. So I guess he is not uninformed. | | The following member appreciates Narayanjot Kaur Ji for the above message. | | 
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