Stop Islamification of Europe

thecoopes · #82 (**permalink**) 02-Nov-2007, 21:18 PM

sorry everyone got to go now, my bed sheets have been ironed and the Ku Klux Klan are meeting.

Sleep tight and do more research, check and re check. then post.

best wishes
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/islam/17459-stop-islamification-of-europe.html
Chief Druid still searching.
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drkhalsa · #83 (**permalink**) 02-Nov-2007, 21:26 PM

Dear Thecoopes
welcome back friend after long time !

the discusion is going fine unless we start taking things personally
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=17459
we just disscusing a matter

my views

As on religious ground it is quite obvious that Sikh just cant take stand against Muslims religion for no obvious reason

The Idea that Muslim in majoruty are moderate and if Britian need to treat them with moderation is not wokring well in Britiain as far as my knowledge goes . and yes I believ that if natives didint wake up to the call the UK atleast is going toward Islamification just based the numbers .
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=17459

I have tried studyig Islam at spirtual level and its same as other religion till we just take into account Good translation of Koran ( and not Ifundamentalist) but there are really very few takers fo such Islam.

I have been in contact with many diffrent muslims from Pakistan , dubai, Saudi arabia ,Iran and India .all of them I met in UK while working there . I have already expressed it before but here again

yes many are moderates and Free thinkes and its difficult to spot a fanatic as far your casual interaction goes BUT there is one peculiar transformation that happen as soon as they together and that at some religious gathering .
they just change into something non moderates and are easily Misguided by these fanatic religious chaps . I dont know what is this the community pressure or the all the misguided Fanatic religious twisted Islam that is taught all of them, that make them vulnerable to turn fanatic as soon as tjhey reach majoruty or otherwise in good numbers .

I dont really know what is right or wrong seriously but this is what I ahve experienced in my interaction and also I hardly interacted with British born Muslims and also the best and and most free thinkers I met in ISLAM were SHIA Muslims and that also from Iran it might look strange to some buddy but the reason is they have suffered most in the hand of fundamentalist Islam thats the reason

Jatinder Singh

dalsingh · #84 (**permalink**) 02-Nov-2007, 22:37 PM

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Originally Posted by thecoopes

So sad that someone so young is so full of misinformation.
Before this mass migration of the last few years, Britain was the 4th wealthiest country! How did we achieve that without all these immigrants?

Because you went to their countries and robbed them blind. Are you really that simple?

dalsingh · #85 (**permalink**) 02-Nov-2007, 22:44 PM

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Originally Posted by thecoopes

We were happy in our land it is your people who felt the need to prance around the globe and displace people

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I think you will find that the British cocked up the partitioning of India when in the last few years they were there, but you, all of you on the Indian subcontinent have had 60 years to put it right!
You still can’t do it among yourselves so how could the British ever hope to have got it right.

Maybe if you didn't stick your nose in the first place there would be no problem to rectify? Sikhs, Muslims and Hindus were finally getting on fine under Sikhs before white man turned up.

You are in a culture of denial. Denial that the actions of the British can ever be oppressive, insidiously minded and geared towards the benefit of the whites at the expense of other races, their lands and resources.

Ever heard of the scheming "divide and conquer" philosophy of the British? Maybe we are seeing the long term results of this.

Wake up and see reality.

thecoopes · #86 (**permalink**) 03-Nov-2007, 19:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dalsingh

Maybe if you didn't stick your nose in the first place there would be no problem to rectify? Sikhs, Muslims and Hindus were finally getting on fine under Sikhs before white man turned up.

You are in a culture of denial. Denial that the actions of the British can ever be oppressive, insidiously minded and geared towards the benefit of the whites at the expense of other races, their lands and resources.

Ever heard of the scheming "divide and conquer" philosophy of the British? Maybe we are seeing the long term results of this.

Wake up and see reality.

Hi, you obviously have a jaundiced, and selective view of history. As for the problem of Muslims, Sikhs and Hindus not getting on together being the fault of the British I really think you have become totally deluded and are suffering from some sort of myopia.

Here in Britain as the rest of the world you have all partitioned yourselves into Hindu area’s Muslim area’s Sikh and so on. If you really believe that there is true bon ami between yourselves and Muslims then why not live among them? The reason as you very well know is, that you are an infidel, plain and simple, an unbeliever!
Please come down of your cross the smell of burning martyr is becoming unbearable.

O, and by the way if you are truly working hard for Britain how is it you have so much time to waste on this site?

O, my excuse? Well as you said we are all lazy B...st..ard’s

thecoopes · #87 (**permalink**) 03-Nov-2007, 19:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drkhalsa

Dear Thecoopes
welcome back friend after long time !

the discusion is going fine unless we start taking things personally
we just disscusing a matter

my views

As on religious ground it is quite obvious that Sikh just cant take stand against Muslims religion for no obvious reason

The Idea that Muslim in majoruty are moderate and if Britian need to treat them with moderation is not wokring well in Britiain as far as my knowledge goes . and yes I believ that if natives didint wake up to the call the UK atleast is going toward Islamification just based the numbers .

I have tried studyig Islam at spirtual level and its same as other religion till we just take into account Good translation of Koran ( and not Ifundamentalist) but there are really very few takers fo such Islam.

I have been in contact with many diffrent muslims from Pakistan , dubai, Saudi arabia ,Iran and India .all of them I met in UK while working there . I have already expressed it before but here again

yes many are moderates and Free thinkes and its difficult to spot a fanatic as far your casual interaction goes BUT there is one peculiar transformation that happen as soon as they together and that at some religious gathering .
they just change into something non moderates and are easily Misguided by these fanatic religious chaps . I dont know what is this the community pressure or the all the misguided Fanatic religious twisted Islam that is taught all of them, that make them vulnerable to turn fanatic as soon as tjhey reach majoruty or otherwise in good numbers .

I dont really know what is right or wrong seriously but this is what I ahve experienced in my interaction and also I hardly interacted with British born Muslims and also the best and and most free thinkers I met in ISLAM were SHIA Muslims and that also from Iran it might look strange to some buddy but the reason is they have suffered most in the hand of fundamentalist Islam thats the reason

Jatinder Singh

Hi, jatinder, I trust you are well. Please don't view my rant with dalsingh as a change in my views. I enjoy a bit of bear baiting from time to time and he is good value for money.

I am at the moment still searching, but as I believe I have said in the past we must each of us answer for our own conduct as an individual, so hiding behind an organised religious front and allowing others to think for us is fallacious.
NB: I don’t know if I had said this before but I went to my local Gurdwara it was very interesting and hospitable.

Best wishes

John c

drkhalsa · #88 (**permalink**) 03-Nov-2007, 21:03 PM

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Hi, jatinder, I trust you are well. Please don't view my rant with dalsingh as a change in my views. I enjoy a bit of bear baiting from time to time and he is good value for money.

I am at the moment still searching, but as I believe I have said in the past we must each of us answer for our own conduct as an individual, so hiding behind an organised religious front and allowing others to think for us is fallacious.
NB: I don’t know if I had said this before but I went to my local Gurdwara it was very interesting and hospitable.

Best wishes

John c

Hi John !

Thanks for your post
I also hope you are doing good!
and I understand your position here while debating so dont worry and in the process many people are geting their direction and new ideas so carry on .
Yes I am happy everything went pleasant on your visit to local gurdwara

take care

Jatinder Singh

thecoopes · #89 (**permalink**) 03-Nov-2007, 22:20 PM

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Originally Posted by drkhalsa

Hi John !

Thanks for your post
I also hope you are doing good!
and I understand your position here while debating so dont worry and in the process many people are geting their direction and new ideas so carry on .
Yes I am happy everything went pleasant on your visit to local gurdwara

take care

Jatinder Singh

Have you had a new arrival? Is the baby in the picture yours?

thecoopes · #90 (**permalink**) 03-Nov-2007, 22:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dalsingh

Maybe if you didn't stick your nose in the first place there would be no problem to rectify? Sikhs, Muslims and Hindus were finally getting on fine under Sikhs before white man turned up.

You are in a culture of denial. Denial that the actions of the British can ever be oppressive, insidiously minded and geared towards the benefit of the whites at the expense of other races, their lands and resources.

Ever heard of the scheming "divide and conquer" philosophy of the British? Maybe we are seeing the long term results of this.

Wake up and see reality.

The sword in Sikhism.

Now before those Bl**dy British came along and upset the balance of peace in India, who was Guru Gobind Singh ji worried about that he needed a sword? After all the B***dy British were away fighting other poor peoples?

Guru Gobind Singh Sahib called it Durga or Bhagwati and praises it thus :

Sword that smites in a flash,
That scatters the armies of the wicked
In the great battle-field,
0 symbol of the brave.
Your arm is irresistible, your brightness shines forth
The splendour of the black dazzles like the sun.
Sword, you are the scourge of saints,
You are the scourge of the wicked ;
Scatterer of sinners, I take refuge with you.
Hail to the Creator. Saviour and sustainer,
Hail to you : Sword supreme !