Is Halal Meat Scientifically Proven Right?

japjisahib04 · #1 (**permalink**) 05-Feb-2005, 13:01 PM

invite saad sanghat about the misconception about halal meat. Can anyone shed light [on] how and who proved [that] halal meat is scientifically right and whether really [this has been] proven scientifically? Thus Jhatka is unhealthy meant?
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Regards Sahni Mohinder
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S|kH · #2 (**permalink**) 07-Feb-2005, 01:10 AM

I was under the impression Halal meat is no different than normal meat except its been prayed upon.

The methods used to cut or kill the animal are more tradition, but that does not certify it as halal. Only thing that certifies it as halal is when u face the animal towards Mecca and kill him while saying a Prayer. (saying Thanks to Allah)
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I dont know how one could be "scientifically right" over the other method, because the end result for both methods is the same. (A dead animal).

CaramelChocolate · #3 (**permalink**) 07-Feb-2005, 21:18 PM

I am pretty sure that they have other reasons other than just the praying over the animal... because they have to slit the throat in a specific way and if it's not slit correctly then it's not halal.
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To my knowledge halal meat was always disallowed in Sikhism as it was wrong to kill an animal to please God or something.

muslim · #4 (**permalink**) 07-Feb-2005, 23:00 PM

O ye who believe! Eat of the good things wherewith
We have provided you, and render thanks to Allah
if it is (indeed) He Whom ye worship. (2:172)

We slaughter according to the dictates of Shariah and again we take seafood without slaughtering it with the permission of Shariah. Allah has created all beings and He knows what is best for us. However Islam being ‘Deen-e-Fitrat’ (the religion of nature), we can and we must find out the logic behind such orders that are objected to by others so that we may prove to them the truthfulness of Islamic way.
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In Islamic Shariah, while meat (of permitted animals) is permitted the consumption of blood is prohibited. Your friends who argue with you may themselves not be prepared to consume blood even after being cooked. The Islamic way of slaughter assures that blood gushes out of the animal’s body, while it is retained inside the body of the animal if it is killed abruptly. The consumption of meat of such animals in whose bodies the blood is retained is unhygienic. Consumption of blood is harmful for human beings while meat devoid of blood is wholesome.

As for charge of cruelty to animals in slaughtering them the Islamic way, it has now been proved scientifically that Halal slaughter is the humane method while western method of killing by stunning inflicts acute pain to the animals. Professor Schultz and Dr. Hazim of the Hanover University, Germany disclosed this after the following experiment. They implanted several electrodes surgically at various points of the skull, just touching the brain of several animals under test. Then some animals were slaughtered by a swift deep incision as desired by Islamic Shariah, cutting the jugular veins and carotid arteries of both sides as also the trachea and oesophagus while others were stunned using a captive bolt pistol as is done in western countries. EEG and ECG were recorded on all the animals under experiment. The experiment amazingly revealed that the animal brain did not feel pain as EEG recorded zero even when the animal’s body was convulsing vigorously, letting out the blood in the Halal method of slaughter. On the other hand EEG showed intense pain immediately after stunning in the western captive bolt stunning method, even though the animals were unconscious.
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Those animals, whose respiratory system is such that they breathe inside and cannot survive outside the water, are Halal. The flow of blood in the bodies of such animals is so minimal that it does not flow out no matter how their bodies are cut. Hence there is no need of slaughtering them to draw the blood out of their bodies.

vijaydeep Singh · #5 (**permalink**) 07-Feb-2005, 23:23 PM

Ek Oankar Wahiguru Ji Ki Fateh

Das here want to add.As per perhaps 2nd Sura and fifth also of holy Kuran,Blood is not to be consumed same is with jews via old testment.
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Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=1717

But in grave situation as Islam is not rigid it can be used.For example in Greek or Unani medicinces perhaps.

Yes to be frank it is a bit difficult to digest as far as Halal meat is concerned.

Das wants to tell a story regading his own expirence. From a place of hindu his realtive purchesed some food.Who lied that it was not Halal.But after das consued it.It was not digested by his body.It is of time when Das was becoming A Sikh and not a Sikh.

S|kH · #6 (**permalink**) 08-Feb-2005, 05:02 AM

The "unhygenic" argument placed by muslims is ridiculous. The claim that other methods of killing the animal are unhygenic and Halal cleans out the blood was true......in 800 A.D.
We're living in 2005, You can kill your animal using the Shariah Law method, but please, don't tell me the food that we're getting from a store is unhygenic. Yes, occassionally you get bad food, but the percentage is so low its ridiculous to claim Westernized food is unhygenic. Back in the day, sure, but now? Through all the tests and machines meat is processed thru, it is VERY hygenic.

Even pork that has been processed through machines and tested by the Government has been proven to be very Hygenic, and more-so hygenic that what certian Muslims in 3rd world countries eat as meat.

Now, your other arguement about Halal meat being humane as it does not torture the animal, is relative. The arguement over what is humane and mannerful is very relative to the individual thats looking upon the situation. Some countries chop off hands for a crime, others put the death penalty, some have NO penalty. The original thought of chopping off hands for a crime committed, was viewed "inhumane" by some, but the practitioners viewed the complete killing of the body via a lethal injection as "inhumane".
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Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=1717

In the end the animal is dead, tortured or not, the conclusion is the same. Your method of killing could be viewed by someone else as torture.

And there's nothing wrong with eating Halal meat in Sikhism, it's a foolish taboo.

captain · #7 (**permalink**) 13-Apr-2006, 18:36 PM

Eating meat is NOT allowed in Sikhism. Fullstop!

kds1980 · #8 (**permalink**) 13-Apr-2006, 22:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by captain

Eating meat is NOT allowed in Sikhism. Fullstop!

who are you to decide whether it is allowed or not
akal takhat has already decided it full stop.

Amardeep · #9 (**permalink**) 14-Apr-2006, 02:38 AM

i think the regard for not eatin halal-meat is because it is not allowed to Kill and use Gods name meanwhile..

why u wanna kill a animal in the name of God...an animal which he had sent to this planet alive