Creation in Islam

azizrasul · #1 (**permalink**) 03-Aug-2007, 14:56 PM

Salaamu Aleykum Everyone,

This is my first post.

I emanate from Pakistan but live in the UK. I'm currently an IT consultant but was originally an Electronic Engineer.

I wanted to begin my life here with the Islamic view of how the universe was created by extracting passages from my book called 'Islam - Pure and Simple' which I'm happy to send upon request.

The Creation of the Universe

An extremely long time ago, the only thing that existed was God[1] (the Creator). There was no universe. God begins the creation of the universe from a single particle, which is split apart. The scientific[2] world, refer to this as the “Big Bang Theory”[3], where an energy source created a particle called the primary nebula or primeval atom. The tiny particle has also been referred to as the cosmic egg.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/islam/16532-creation-in-islam.html

The following verse is the only Qur’anic verse, which refers to the moment of creation of the universe. It is interesting that God talks about the root ingredients at the moment of creation and also that of water as a root ingredient of the creation of all living creatures. This is indeed a verse dealing with God’s ability and power to create.

“Do not the Unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth (meaning the universe) were joined together (ratq) in one piece, then We (meaning God, the Creator) rent them asunder (fataqa) and We got every living thing out of water. Will they then not believe?”
Qur’an - Surah al-Anbiyaa (The Prophets) 21:30 See also 24:45.

[1] Moses (peace be upon him) in Hebrew called Him Eloha, Jesus (peace be upon him) in Aramaic called Him Allaha and Muhammad (peace be upon him) in Arabic called Him Allah. The name Allah is a contraction of the Arabic words ‘Al’ and ‘lah’ meaning The God. The same applies to the names Eloha and Allaha.

[2] Refer to the discoveries of people such as Alexander A. Friedmann (1888 -1925), Monsignor George Henri Lemaitre (1894 -1966), Edwin Powell Hubble (1889 -1953), George A. Gamow (1904 - 1968), Arno A. Penzias (1933 -), Robert Wilson (1936 -), Robert H. Dicke (1916 - 1997), Phillip James E. Peebles (1935 -), etc.
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[3] Coined by Fred Hoyle (1915 – 2001) who was not a supporter of the Big Bang theory and called it as a casual remark in 1950.

Sworn_Avenger · #2 (**permalink**) 03-Aug-2007, 15:11 PM

oops you must have got the wrong website, this is SIKH PHILOSOPHY.
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go to alJazeera Magazine

Sworn_Avenger · #3 (**permalink**) 03-Aug-2007, 15:15 PM

Brap Brap

Astroboy · #4 (**permalink**) 03-Aug-2007, 15:42 PM

Looks to me that Islam influenced Hinduism and that's why the same concept appears in the oldest vedic literature.

Sworn_Avenger · #5 (**permalink**) 03-Aug-2007, 15:59 PM

Hinduism is the oldest religion. Islam has influenced hinduism on nothing. what he has written, can be read in The old testament, its nothing new, your religion did not see this, u were influenced by judaism

Astroboy · #6 (**permalink**) 03-Aug-2007, 16:30 PM

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Sworn_Avenger · #7 (**permalink**) 03-Aug-2007, 16:35 PM

Women in Sikhism face different but worse fate. Sikh women in the UK,CANADA,AUSTRALIA,AMERICA have been influenced by the western ways, the disresepct level is crazy, their dress sense is shocking!!! so sikh girls...need to find their roots and respect again. at least where im from i cant judge to you in malaysia.

vijaydeep Singh · #8 (**permalink**) 03-Aug-2007, 17:11 PM

Gurfateh

Well das had a Muslim girl freind.She would have been killed along with her family had they went ahead to mary her off to das after converting her to Sikhism.

So thats the way Women enjoy the liberty over there.

Coming to verse in Holy Kuran.It is our God Akal(Bi Fani or undistructable) and Alaih(un absorbalbe(like other 4 or 5 elements of creation go back to energy)) and Allah(whose bounty and power are never emptied).

That God only did send the Holy verse in form of Suras made up of Ayats to Rasol Akran Sal Al Lahe Salle Wa Wassalam.
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As that God wants so do muslim work and so do other work as not leafe can flutter without will fo that God.Our deeds are predifended and alterd by same on the iron plates.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=16532

God is nur or visible form of energy(Amit Auj) and that energy is invisible also.

That energy does manifest in form of matter.

By the way had God been creator and not the manfester of the self,the the place where firt mater was created by God,energy which God used to create atom,the place where God stood to create,who created that all?

Good thing ben posted but we are not the unbelivers.Rather what we belive is actualy waht god let us belive.

Astroboy · #9 (**permalink**) 03-Aug-2007, 17:22 PM

I'd like to ask you some questions on the creation of Islam in this context: Are you familiar with the history behind the succession of the 12 Imams?
First of all, may I ask which sect you belong to. Reason why I am asking is because it is pointless to further this discussion if my answers given don't favour your particular beliefs. Because I understand that Islam has very many sects and each has its cultural and historical difference from the other sects.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=16532
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=16532

Most of the bloodshed between the sects within Islam has also got to do with differences in places of worship and method of worship and whose is the correct version of the Quran. This bloodshed, I believe, is only in non-South East Asian countries because in Malaysia, such violence is unheard of.
It could be because most muslims (98&#37

are sunnis.

vijaydeep Singh · #10 (**permalink**) 03-Aug-2007, 17:37 PM

Gurfateh

Quote:

Originally Posted by begum

I'd like to ask you some questions on the creation of Islam in this context: Are you familiar with the history behind the succession of the 12 Imams?
First of all, may I ask which sect you belong to. Reason why I am asking is because it is pointless to further this discussion if my answers given don't favour your particular beliefs. Because I understand that Islam has very many sects and each has its cultural and historical difference from the other sects.

Most of the bloodshed between the sects within Islam has also got to do with differences in places of worship and method of worship and whose is the correct version of the Quran. This bloodshed, I believe, is only in non-South East Asian countries because in Malaysia, such violence is unheard of.
It could be because most muslims (98%) are sunnis.

Well if das has been asked about it.

Dear Friend(Das does not know weather begum is a name or the attribute of sorrow less and Begum in our land means better half but in Sikhism it for some high things).

anyway das is aware that about the 4th Imama there is some problems with Shi's and Sunnis and as per interpetaion of Holy Kuran there are 72 formals and further more sub divisions of code which is basically one Islamic code.

Das belongs to the 73rd sect of Islam called Gurmat or what people say Sikhism.But das(Bande in farsi) has good numbers of brethern from Wahabis,Tablighis,Qadaris,Shi-as and Sunnis freternity and das parys to Allah for unity of all Momins.Amin.