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Old 24-Sep-2004, 11:44 AM
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I am having a small dabate with a fellow who has put me in to a little situation. the debate is about god and how 'truth' is found. example of questions

what is truth?

how is truth found?

when was the truth?

can truth be found in a guru, prophet, saga, enlighted person etc etc
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the real question i am stuck on is

"If you're saying that you need a guru, then I say let your heart be your guru"

what will be the best reply to the best of ur knowlwdge?

i would be very grateful if you could let me in with yor input as soon as possible
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Old 25-Sep-2004, 17:50 PM
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c'mon guys get philosophizing!!

here is a reply i got...

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in love with ur guru? how can one be in love with a guru? if it is because ur guru can do this or that for you then i say you do not love ur guru, because love is not service.

another one

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is one saying that i am making a path? if i am, then i wish 2 halt all of which one is doing. one is not trying 2 create a path, one is simlpy destroying the images/names that one has put against oneself, images/names which are blinding one from understanding 'what is'.


Can you not see that religion is an image? is a name?
i say this guy has some valid points
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""If you're saying that you need a guru, then I say let your heart be your guru"

what will be the best reply to the best of ur knowlwdge?"


Sikhi teaches that we need a Guru to merge with Vaheguru. Merging with Vaheguru is NOT POSSIBLE without a Guru. The blessing of khande ki pahul Amrit joins us with the Guru. Without it we actually do not have that bond with the Guru. So, it is a spiritual link with the Guru created through this initiation that is required; not just guidance in the form of instructions. The proof for this is found in the Vaars of Bhai Gurdass Ji. These Vaars were called the keys to the Guru Granth Sahib by the Guru and they have the status of Gurbani. Hope that helps.
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Re: What is Truth ?

What is TRUTH?
Anything that conforms to REALITY is TRUTH, is it not?
we know there are 2 kinds of truth.
personal truth and absolute truth.
personal truth being one in which because YOU believe it, then it must be TRUE to you. absolute truth being one in which no matter what you believe it is the FACT.
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Maybe the question should be...WHAT IS REALITY?
we make sense of our world through the use of our senses. A dog can smell scents that we cannot. Thus is a dog's sense of smell closer to reality than ours? if so then it's experience of smelling the scents of a flower is TRUER than ours too.
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Can we trust in our own souls and minds to know truth. If we concider only logic, we must see that if something is good, it must be good for all involed. Murder, rape, even theft are not good for the victims. Selfish ambition (see Harod the Great) hurts those you step on to reach where you are going.
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Here, i feel i must step on many toes. Is it right to turn the other cheek? I like to be forgiven when fail (i wish it weren't so frequent). If all forgive and do not seek revenge, I believe it would be a better world. Who does it hurt to forgive (not ignore) evil. Punishment is obviously necessary (with no judgement, there is no right and wrong), but it can be done in love. Turn the other cheek isn't to take everything; it's just not being so caught up in self-importance. If you slap me and i will not slap you back, but i won't stand in arms reach of you. If you slap another, I will step in and try to protect the offended if he/she needs it. This is where "if all other avenues are exhausted, it is righteous to draw the sword!"
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Sorry for the rabbit trail.
By in large truth, i believe, is a matter of logic.
seeking after God
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Truth is divine essence, maan tu jot swaroop hai apna mool pachaan.
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Satshriakaal to all!
What is truth? According to philosophers and many persons It is the problem of being clear about what you are saying when you say some claim or other is true.According to me God has second name as truth. Truth is in me u everyone. Truth makes us close to god . Why it is said that always speak truth and god will let u go in heaven doesn't it means its god's creation. We ourselves can observe it after saying truth to anyone who should know it we feel vey relaxing, isn't it?
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Fateh. I believe truth is God and only God. Reality is the epitome of impurity. Impurity lives in the creation because we live in the creation. Without an ounce of ego in the universe, then the creation is true as well. But it is possibly our jobs to make our own reality true by manifesting the formless God into his creation. God is the creation as well but our reality differs from true reality. When we enter true reality, its heaven on earth. Death will be something to look forward to because you know you are saved and the afterlife is even more blissfull. Then you can bind yourself with the formless God. Reality is trivial because it is different for everyone. Everyone has different experiences and thus their reality is different. However, when we become enlightened, the creation becomes true as well because we will see God in everything. As humans, we need to link the creation with God and realize it is one in the same. However, God is transcendent and above the creation and thus only he is true at the moment. But when we see the creation as true by living by the laws of the creation (dharma/karma), we live in the exact will of God, all our actions are pure, and the truth within manifests in reality. These are only opinions and they are everchanging. The only absolute truth that I can definitely say is nirgun Waheguru. Fateh.
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