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it depends on your area and situation. if your from a wealthy family, you don't tend to get caught up with the local gangs on the street, but if you live anywhere out of hose sikh safe havens and your family is not rich, then you will get cuaght up, i will say it is worse than the 1980's right now its sick. The stories i hear makes my community want to go out on vigilante attacks against certain groups. E.G Sikh girls are being raped constantly until they convert. Boys are beating beaten and stabbed half to death until they convert. Its crazy, i cant explain the situation its too much!
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it depends on your area and situation. if your from a wealthy family, you don't tend to get caught up with the local gangs on the street, but if you live anywhere out of hose sikh safe havens and your family is not rich, then you will get cuaght up, i will say it is worse than the 1980's right now its sick. The stories i hear makes my community want to go out on vigilante attacks against certain groups. E.G Sikh girls are being raped constantly until they convert. Boys are beating beaten and stabbed half to death until they convert. Its crazy, i cant explain the situation its too much!
If the situation is so bad then what is uk police and law is doing.i thought that law and order in western countries is much better than india.but if what you are saying is true then
this situation is no better than the law and order state of bihar.I don't think in indian cities anyone can rape a girl and forces her to convert to hinduism or islam.
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Police in india is much better, apart from the corruption we hear of. Police can't do anything, the girl is to scared to report it, for her family, half the muslims doing it are illegal immigrants anyway, if they do get arrested no proof can be obtain or in the slight chance they do ge caught red handed they chances are they wont serve a prison sentence, and if they do it will be a maximum of 5 years. then they'll be a new illegal immigrant to replace them, it never stops theres to many. This only happens in certain areas but the scale it happens is much bigger than anyone thinks. Until u live here, and its your mates its happening too, you wont understand because it will al sound a little farfetched
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are these muslims also targetting hindu's and christians or their specific target are only sikhs.?
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Only Answer in there for UK is unity among Hindus,Jews,Sikhs and Christians against such hooligans.

But we are more interest over there to akj vs kala afghana or akj vs nihungs or nihungs vs taksal and list is endless.
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Sikhs being a Sirdar leader can unite the all forces mentioned above and move against these guys who want us to be converted.OK to join hands with BNP as they are also fed up with wahabi idiots.

In east London Seven Kings Gurudwara,go and Ask for Bhai Harpratap Singh Ji. After meeeting him send a PM to das.Das will try to let Nihungs and Hindus join hands with rest.Das has lost the contact of his buddies from BNP and Jews for last few months yet there could be some guys who will stil having some contact among us.

Best of luck and get cracking.

Eat and let girls also eat good lot of pork.convert their girls and thier boys.

Do not be defeinsve but be offensive.Akal will help.Bhai KDSingh Ji.

Wahabi over there are after Hindus,Christians and Jews also.

But Sikhs due to influnce of one Jatha you love to hate and Sants are to much ritualistic and divided so they fall easy pray.

Being to much supprressing in rituals ladies see soalce in Islamic world but by the time they know they are trapped it is too late.

Das has good numbers of missioanris has his firneds in London.But they wait for reform and are afraid to say truth in public beinf afraid of been beaten up.So they are of little help as fearfull person can not be a leader.
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Nihungs are OK but have good lot of problems back home which makes them totaly incapable to convert the Muslim back to Gurmat.

Budhadal does not baptises Muslim or Christian as yet.Once das is able to gain thier permission then Gang of Sukha Singh,Kamroop Singh and Baba Nidder Singh will be able to carry out baptism over there.But this may take time.

So weather das succeds to reform Nihungs or not each Sikh under the guiandance of Guru Granht Sahihb as well as Sikh code of conduct by itself needs to be united in UK and take care of these Wahabis.

Some so called Khalisatani leaders are still soft on Muslims and tell Sikhs to restrain else suport they get from Pakistan givenement in uk could be effected.
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vijaydeep singh ji i too heard of conversions in u.k. but stabbing boys until they convert or
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raping girls until they convert is too much too beleive.How could a developed country allow this.i thought majority of conversions are happenning due to brainwashing because recently u.k. police too tried to investigate the cases and found no evidence.if the situation is so bad then then sikh organisations should do something.
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vijaydeep singh ji i too heard of conversions in u.k. but stabbing boys until they convert or
raping girls until they convert is too much too beleive.How could a developed country allow this.i thought majority of conversions are happenning due to brainwashing because recently u.k. police too tried to investigate the cases and found no evidence.if the situation is so bad then then sikh organisations should do something.

There are so many muslims outnumbering the sikhs its crazy, if you want proof, go onto youtube.com look up a gang called PDC, SMS. there from peckham and brixton. look onto website relating to them it might show the kinda stuff they do. As for letting it develop...theres been over 500,000 immigrants in the last 2 years, messing up our country, we are also immigrants but when the sikh community came to england most of the time it was through invitation from the English priminster due to a lack of labour force afta the war, we did not come here just to seek benefits like they are. its crazy the amount of stories you hear.

I do assure you it is happening. about 10 of my freinds have converted sikh and christian. most were willing because if you are muslim, in the rough area you are safe because it is rare to see a muslim rob or beat another muslim out on the street unless there is a personal problem.

like i said look up to gangs, on youtube or websites or the news
you will hear of them, mainly consisting of pakistanis, blacks and middle eastern people. And as i said before, their are a lot of powerful sikhs in the uk "Punjabi Mafia" very powerful very rich. but there minds are on money, business here own welfare theyve moved to the suburbs, they have no time for these incidents. And btw they are targeting all religions, but if you see them in the street and you don't say salaam Ala kum or however the spelling is...yor get messed up.
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i strongly advise you to please stay on this website and tell the truth to other pro muslim sikhs who don't beleive that these types of things are happening in u.k..Earlier i had debates with some sikhs on muslims but they simply refuse to beleive that these types of things are happening.They simply say that it is just a propaganda by sikhs and some of these sikhs themselves are from u.k..as you yourself are from u.k. and you have great knowledge and personal experiance on this subject so please stay on this website and expose the truth
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Even in the uk sikhs are in the firing line, every city/town muslims dominate it, leaving sikh youths feeling threatened apart from a few towns i.e Southall, Gravesend. Even southall these days is becoming more and more muslim. I see sikh boys converting daily to islam because of the pressure around, this is no exaggeration, there are gangs in London whos main ambition is to convert people to islam using severe violence. aka PDC, SMS. The only hope to fight back was shere punjab boys, but they tourned on their own sikh brothers, began extorting smal businesses, they were eventually chased down, half sent to prison half in hiding from the bigger sikh fish, but these people are only into making money, business, proeprty deals, flash cars. they do not care whats happening to their own people on the street.
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Above is the key to what SwornAvenger ji is explaining to us. A culture of criminality where brute force and numbers define values and morals. It is very hard to fight this once it becomes ingrained in a locality. Politicians, police, the public and even those who have made it out of the "hood" do nothing because they don't want to be reminded of the people who are trapped. It could be them, the possibilities are too frightening. It is easier to despise and ignore. The only way to fight this -- and it is a trend everywhere -- is for a few people to be relentless in their love of truth. Here I agree with kds1980 ji.
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