Are the Sikhs Hindus?

Pressures exist for Sikh communities from outside and inside no matter where you live. From my observations Sikhi is stronger outside of India, though I accept this is a generalisation and will not be true in all cases. The internal pressures are the same all over the world (they relate to human nature) so that leads me to conclude that the external pressures are more systematic and destructive in India when the cultural and historical ties should make it easier to deal with internal pressures there through sangat and tradition. Why is this not happening but a revival being seen in other places despite the challenges? I'm inclined to believe it is due to the teachings of Sikhism being undermined again and again from those at the top
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I had a really loooong post but it could all be summed up into that above ^

Hi..
I agree with your point. It will be great for hindus to take this step and to follow a true way of living. I have also seen many hindus doing that because they are inspired by the teachings of Gurus, the Sikhi way of living and many of them are welcomed by Sikhs Community but not all. I even heared Sikh people neglecting some Hindus who have converted to Sikh by saying "He is Hindu.. how can he be compared to us".

We can't blame complete Hinduism because many are targeting Sikhs. I know however this is very wrong but every individual has Good and Bad in him/her.

The main reason for the conflict between Hindus-Sikhs are the people who have the power to rule we stupid people. We elect them as our leaders but just to protect their vote banks, they influence us to go against each other. Taking side of hindus/sikhs helps them with hindu/sikh vote banks.

Regarding this i have already mentioned, migration of hindus in Punjab cannot destroy Punjabi or Sikhism. I know that Sikhism is not weak that it can be destroyed by anyone. We just have to modify our thinking. We can help these migrants to understand what Sikhism is. This might guide them the Sikhi way of living. I am saying this because i myself has experienced this. Now i am very close to Sikhism, try to live a true life. Its not easy but if we believe in God, have the courage to learn and follow the path of God then we'll find that it really helps a lot. I dont want to mention but even i was born Hindu, but after studying the teachings of our Gurus, the Sikhi way of living, i fell in love with Sikhism. I try to live my life in a Sikhi way.

I am proud to say that there is no fault in Sikhs and Sikhism. We are the best. I said "we" because i feel myself as a part of Sikhism.

I'm tired of people debating on this topic. Lets stop thinking whether a Sikh is a Hindu or whatever we may choose to say. Pay heed to the Gurbani and be thankful to God for making you a humanbeing. Realize what you are and don't bother what people say.
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The Gurbani says- "Mun tu jyot swaroop hai, Apna mool pehchaan"
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spend time in thinking about the Almighty, in naam, in seva and daan, the three important teachings of Sikhism.
Lets start thinking in broader terms-The Gurbani is beautiful, take one line as your thought for the day and see how all these issues will seem so trivial.
If some one asks me my religion, I say, to Love God's creation and to try and follow the wonderfu teachings of my 11 Gurus (including The Guru Granth Sahib).

WAHE GURU BLESS US ALL!

pamma ji

I do not think it will ever stop. It was a problem throughout the entire 18th and 19th Century. British tried to sort it out in the 1891, 1901 census. Historical notes on their efforts show that Sikhs themselves were divided on the point and in some cases refused to commit. This worked well into the hands of the "divide and rule" methods of the raj. In the 19th Century the SinghSaba movement was formed to put an end to doubts over Sikh identity. This movement took on many different forms, and continued its lobby with the quom through the early 1900's, and even to this day. Controversies broke out within the movement, and it splintered into a strict khalsa identity which alienated many people, and a broader view which tolerated sanatan influences for the sake of unity and peace in the family. Throughout the history of this controversy Sant Samaj and other sanatan interests have continued to plant seeds of doubt for political reasons. The so-called Dasam Granth is an unmistakeable artifact of the struggle to own Sikh identity. Ownership of the Sikh identity btw what the controversy is about. I suspect it will continue much longer.

I am giving you the general outline of the problem. For every sentence here there are chapters of details I have left out. We really need a carefully constructed historical thread that traces each episode going back even to the time of Guru Nanak, when his brother tried to take hold of the reins.

A Hindu wrote the starter article. Why has no one commended him for his clear and unequivocal denial that Sikhs are Hindus? He should be commended for his clear, authoritative statement.

Pamma ji, that reminds me of the first Pauri of Jap ji Sahib.