Philosophical (Western) Taoist and the Sikh.

Narayanjot Ji,
If I may... I feel that the Tao does not seek a resolution but through wu wei allows the illusion of duality to prove itself by not remaining "out of balance" and becoming what is intended and harmony is the result.

We tend to describe and understand things as have dual natures because we tend to be reactionary selfish creatures. One action may be viewed in totally opposite ways depending on the person viewing it. The wise person accepts that the thing happened and the reality of the situation at hand and does not view it from a personal/egotistical perspective.

Cultivate harmony within yourself, and harmony becomes real;
Cultivate harmony within your family, and harmony becomes fertile;
Cultivate harmony within your community, and harmony becomes abundant;
Cultivate harmony within your culture, and harmony becomes enduring;
Cultivate harmony within the world, and harmony becomes ubiquitous.

Live with a person to understand that person;
Live with a family to understand that family;
Live with a community to understand that community;
Live with a culture to understand that culture;
Live with the world to understand the world.

How can I live with the world?
By accepting.
- Chapter 54 of the Tao Te Ching

I would like to also quote the final chapter of the Tao Te Ching. There, I believe, you will find a sentiment echoed by the Gurus and sought by the wise.

Honest people use no rhetoric;
Rhetoric is not honesty.
Enlightened people are not cultured;
Culture is not enlightenment.
Content people are not wealthy;
Wealth is not contentment.

So the sage does not serve himself;
The more he does for others, the more he is satisfied;
The more he gives, the more he receives.
Nature flourishes at the expense of no one;
So the sage benefits all men and contends with none.
- Chapter 81 of the Tao Te Ching

 
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ਕਬੀਰ ਪ੍ਰੀਤਿ ਇਕ ਸਿਉ ਕੀਏ ਆਨ ਦੁਬਿਧਾ ਜਾਇ ॥
kabeer preeth eik sio keeeae aan dhubidhhaa jaae ||
Kabeer, when you are in love with the One Lord, duality and alienation depart.

Conquer with Inaction

Guys, I'll let out a secret. Conquer women with inaction works wonders for me.
Earlier I fell for the chase because women will lure men to pursue them and play hard to get.
Reverse the formula, first by having more self-control. Then work on your subtlety.
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Concentrate on your character, personality, knowledge, communication skills and have a sense of humor.
Remember, women are turned on by men's smells like cologne, etc. (not overpowering smells but subtle smells).
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Also consult the following link:-

Secrets of women - AskMen.com

NamJap ji

Sometimes I think that threads (even the ones that you start) become heavy, laden down with serious language and thought, and it is too much for you. Then you have to break out with some humor and clown around. This last offering is a good example of that.
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It is the silliest thing to include in a discussion of WuWei and Lao Tzu and the Tao, and curiously it also makes sense. A lot of fun reading it. What next?

Anway,

“ The first man who, having fenced in a piece of land, said "This is mine," and found people naive enough to believe him, that man was the true founder of civil society. From how many crimes, wars, and murders, from how many horrors and misfortunes might not any one have saved mankind, by pulling up the stakes, or filling up the ditch, and crying to his fellows: Beware of listening to this impostor; you are undone if you once forget that the fruits of the earth belong to us all, and the earth itself to nobody. ”

I doubt this will add anything tom the discussion, but I want to write this.

A friend of mine, another Amritdhari Sikh, and I were discussing the topic of Sikhi and the Tao Te Ching. Our conclusion was that the philosophies of both systems are very similar, but there is one huge difference.

Taoism doesn't have Naam.
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And that makes all the difference.

Mai

Now I come to the serious stuff and it is connected with Yin and Yang. And it's all about men and women. You're free to comment.

Here's the link about Female Tao (enjoy reading) :Chapter 11 : Gender-Inclusive Tao Te Ching : Seal Scripts, Commentary

Well this not only is true of women saying it but also men :-
In Punjabi -

Mai Ji,
The way I see it the Tao shows "the Way" that things work out in accordance to the will/order that was laid down by the Creator/during the creation of the Created. It tends not to directly address the Creator, but instead address the apparent Will of the Creator. There are many correlations between the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji and the Tao Te Ching when delving into that Will and/or our role in it. The chapters of the Tao are bite size pieces of understanding the Will. Where as the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, while confirming much of the Tao, is primarily concerned with bring harmony and understanding to seekers of the Creator.
The Tao shows us things we already know and have seen through a new light. It does not describe the light itself. That is not the way of the Tao as the it is said in the Tao the the Way that can be explained is not true. This is a parallel of where the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji states that no matter how hard you try you cannot describe the Creator. The Way and Waheguru are the same. (replace "Way" with "Waheguru" when reading the Tao and see what you think)

The Tao Te Ching describes the apparent Will of the Creator and sets forth an understanding for the benefit to our life and thus to our soul, whereas the Naam becomes a representation of the Creator to our mind and sets forth a point of focus for the benefit of our soul and thus to our life.

NamJap ji That was classic. images spoke louder than words for sure. P/S usually when a man says "I need space" he is getting ready to jump out of a relationship. Either literally or figuratively. Seems Mr. Masood was in it for the long haul though.
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