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Islam has nothing to do with honour killings, say what you like it is not permissible and is a great sin.
I agree. It is not "Islam" per se...the killers in question are muslims who dont understand their religion well.

Just like the thousands of "SIKHS" in Punjab and elsewhere who ABORT FEMALE FOETUSES....are Sikhs who dont understand the SIKH RELIGION very well. GURU JI CONDEMNS killing of daughters/wives.... yet see how many dowry killings happen in Punjab sikh homes as well.

This is usually our misconception...we say "ISLAM" "SIKH" when we actually mean the Followers of islam, Followers of Sikhi...the two are worlds apart.

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In reguards to people saying Islam is still in the stone age, and hasn't moved fowards. Ever wonder, why? maybe it could be because Muslims don't want to because such advancements would lead to leading a false religion, and falsehood leads to a fake religion and a unpracticed one. In the end we are only here for lets say 60 to 80 years. why not fulfill the duty of God? (muslim pont of view)
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/interfaith-dialogues/257-wake-up-call-to-sikhs.html

So WHY would you want to evolve into this western society?.
from what i see all this has lead to many of our sisters spreading there legs to any guy, guys smoking up pot (because its okay and natural), drinking...

the way i see it, if you give society a little bit of something it will just ask for more and more... example: sex, look at how far its come from the 1900s just in the west.. now we have girls gone wild video's in cancun.

So basically all i'm trying to say is it seems Muslims are just keeping to there own way which is keeping TRUE to there religion and they refuse evolve becase they are afraid it would lead to what we have today in the west. Now if a muslim wants to live in the west that is his/her choice, after all saying such things like "muslims shouldn't be allowed in the west" is pretty ignorant especially when its coming form a sikh after all arn't sikhs suppose to treat and see all as equals regardless of there faith... Jew, Budist or whatever
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Salaamulaikum I just love that Islamic thought.

Hi my friend, for what its worth here is my take on it, in respect to an objective view of Islam.

I say objective as I am no follower of any religion and am at the moment taking a fresh look at faith.



In reguards to people saying Islam is still in the stone age, and hasn't moved fowards. Ever wonder, why? maybe it could be because Muslims don't want to because such advancements would lead to leading a false religion, and falsehood leads to a fake religion and a unpracticed one. In the end we are only here for lets say 60 to 80 years. why not fulfill the duty of God? (muslim pont of view)



I have some sympathy with you here about changing to fit a modern world, the world may change but Gods word does not need to be processed for 21st century consumption.

However what I see in Islam and the interpretation of Gods will by its followers leads me to view them as just an elitist gang of myopic fanatics who believe that all who are not Muslim are dammed. This is first hand experience from living next to a large Islamic community.

As most people believe in their own religion with the same conviction as Muslims, and as all religions need faith the simple fact is, yours is true in your eyes due to faith all religions stand on faith, the faith you have does not make yours right any more than the faith I have makes mine right. Faith is unsupported belief, enjoy your religion but respect others, believe by all means yours is the truth but allow the possibility that others believe with the same faith theirs is the truth.


So WHY would you want to evolve into this western society?.
from what i see all this has lead to many of our sisters spreading there legs to any guy, guys smoking up pot (because its okay and natural), drinking...



Yes I have to agree with you here Western society leaves a lot to be desired in respect to morals.

Yet what an anathema that people who complain so much about the decadence of the West clamour to get here in their millions. Particularly to get hold of this wealth that has been generated by corruption. I don’t think the God you worship would see your argument for living in the West as valid!

the way i see it, if you give society a little bit of something it will just ask for more and more... example: sex, look at how far its come from the 1900s just in the west.. now we have girls gone wild video's in cancun. I haven’t seen that one, and if it offends don’t watch it.


So basically all i'm trying to say is it seems Muslims are just keeping to there own way which is keeping TRUE to there religion and they refuse evolve becase they are afraid it would lead to what we have today in the west. Now if a muslim wants to live in the west that is his/her choice, after all saying such things like "muslims shouldn't be allowed in the west" is pretty ignorant especially when its coming form a sikh after all arn't sikhs suppose to treat and see all as equals regardless of there faith... Jew, Budist or whatever


I’m not a Sikh or any religion you would recognise, I am a Anglo Saxon Westerner who thinks that we have left the door open for too many people who come here and bleat continually how bad everything is, but are the first in the welfare queue and first to scream when they feel their new Western freedoms have been infringed.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=257

We do think all men are equals but ask that any who come to live with us treat everyone with the same respect.
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Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=257
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Though muslims put lot of pressure on women to wear black cartridge over their body .

But , Muslim women not as humble as you think , they are also too hot n Sexy ...

Given a chance to them ... They will explode like a Atom Bomb...

This was in response to Platinum , Diamond and Gold member...:p
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Salaamulaikum I just love that Islamic thought.

Hi my friend, for what its worth here is my take on it, in respect to an objective view of Islam.

I say objective as I am no follower of any religion and am at the moment taking a fresh look at faith.



In reguards to people saying Islam is still in the stone age, and hasn't moved fowards. Ever wonder, why? maybe it could be because Muslims don't want to because such advancements would lead to leading a false religion, and falsehood leads to a fake religion and a unpracticed one. In the end we are only here for lets say 60 to 80 years. why not fulfill the duty of God? (muslim pont of view)



I have some sympathy with you here about changing to fit a modern world, the world may change but Gods word does not need to be processed for 21st century consumption.

However what I see in Islam and the interpretation of Gods will by its followers leads me to view them as just an elitist gang of myopic fanatics who believe that all who are not Muslim are dammed. This is first hand experience from living next to a large Islamic community.

As most people believe in their own religion with the same conviction as Muslims, and as all religions need faith the simple fact is, yours is true in your eyes due to faith all religions stand on faith, the faith you have does not make yours right any more than the faith I have makes mine right. Faith is unsupported belief, enjoy your religion but respect others, believe by all means yours is the truth but allow the possibility that others believe with the same faith theirs is the truth.


So WHY would you want to evolve into this western society?.
from what i see all this has lead to many of our sisters spreading there legs to any guy, guys smoking up pot (because its okay and natural), drinking...



Yes I have to agree with you here Western society leaves a lot to be desired in respect to morals.

Yet what an anathema that people who complain so much about the decadence of the West clamour to get here in their millions. Particularly to get hold of this wealth that has been generated by corruption. I don’t think the God you worship would see your argument for living in the West as valid!

the way i see it, if you give society a little bit of something it will just ask for more and more... example: sex, look at how far its come from the 1900s just in the west.. now we have girls gone wild video's in cancun. I haven’t seen that one, and if it offends don’t watch it.


So basically all i'm trying to say is it seems Muslims are just keeping to there own way which is keeping TRUE to there religion and they refuse evolve becase they are afraid it would lead to what we have today in the west. Now if a muslim wants to live in the west that is his/her choice, after all saying such things like "muslims shouldn't be allowed in the west" is pretty ignorant especially when its coming form a sikh after all arn't sikhs suppose to treat and see all as equals regardless of there faith... Jew, Budist or whatever


I’m not a Sikh or any religion you would recognise, I am a Anglo Saxon Westerner who thinks that we have left the door open for too many people who come here and bleat continually how bad everything is, but are the first in the welfare queue and first to scream when they feel their new Western freedoms have been infringed.

We do think all men are equals but ask that any who come to live with us treat everyone with the same respect.

Dear Coopes ,


Though some always complain about the Western society corrupting the other societies , But , what I have observed that people have a natural instinct to get attracted to corrupt and corruption things , not to the good things which even may be in small quantities .


People say that in west people marry and divorce...


But , there are also some good people who have been together since their age of 11 or 13 and still maintaining their relationship.

No , one forces any one to do or not to do , but its the people themselves decide whether accept good things or bad things.
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Though muslims put lot of pressure on women to wear black cartridge over their body .

But , Muslim women not as humble as you think , they are also too hot n Sexy ...

Given a chance to them ... They will explode like a Atom Bomb...

This was in response to Platinum , Diamond and Gold member...
Dear DS ,

You seem to be an exirianced person

is this you ersonal exiriance or did some friend of your told you this true thing.

anyway bakri of al maujaroun left Uk after London Bombing as he was very brave with single hand.

Latter Bakri was arrested in middle east.
Das does not know what hapened next to him.

just visit the site of al mouhajroun again and it is under Jewish control.

There are still some elememts in UK Or India which use the resource of the system and people but want to destroy them or subdue them.
we call them Asteen Ke Samp ie snakes in cuffs.

But all Muslims are not Bad either.
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