
13-Jul-2004, 11:37 AM
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| | | | | | Are the principles of ahimsa practical in real life? Is it practical nowadays to live by the Buddhist/Hindu concept called "ahimsa", which is a principle that teaches nonviolence towards ALL living things? In some cases, I would say no. Such cases are self-defense, war, offing some insects, killing weeds, putting terminally ill animals to sleep, euthanasia, and eating meat. *
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16-Jul-2004, 16:41 PM
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| | | | | | | well Guru Nanak never believed in ahimsa so ......no | 
16-Jul-2004, 18:01 PM
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Originally Posted by The lion king well Guru Nanak never believed in ahimsa so ......no  | What do you mean ? | 
16-Jul-2004, 20:55 PM
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| | | | | I think, Ahimsa means no hurting to another consciously, emotionally or physically. But then, while walking on road, there might be so many insects, which I can see, others I cant see. I may try to walk so that I dont kill those, but then after some time, I just close my eyes, saying I cant help out looking at so many insects. From Saint-soldier, the soldier is not being ahimsavadi, that is to STAND UP for own right. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/interfaith-dialogues/246-are-principles-ahimsa-practical-real-life.htmlReference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=246
I guess, life is all about survival. One kills another to keep this life cycle ON! Now my views about vegetarians are also undergoing change, if we consider plants as living ones, and seeds as something from which new life is to sprout out. | 
19-Jul-2004, 17:58 PM
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Originally Posted by The lion king well Guru Nanak never believed in ahimsa so ......no  | Anger is a form of violence, so non anger is a form of non-violence. To my knowledge Guru Nanak rejected strict Jain-like ahimsa.
About vegetarianism - I am vegetarian because I do not want to promote, nor agree with the intentionally hurting or killing of any being. Plants do not have a nervous system, therefore cannot feel pain.
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19-Jul-2004, 19:38 PM
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| | | | | Dear CC,
As per 'Plants do not have a nervous system, therefore cannot feel pain.', I was reading about experiments a few years ago, in which researchers proved that plants DO have feelings. They can very well feel what is going on. I am not that technical to point out if they have nervous system or not, though. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=246Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=246
I agree about non-strict Jain-like Ahimsa.
Regards. | 
19-Jul-2004, 19:46 PM
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| | | | | Just off topic, I think you all must have heard about a plant called 'Touch Me Not'... it reacts to human touch as if it has gone dead and come back to life after sometime... What would you term this reaction to be like ? | 
19-Jul-2004, 21:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ThinkingOne Dear CC,
As per 'Plants do not have a nervous system, therefore cannot feel pain.', I was reading about experiments a few years ago, in which researchers proved that plants DO have feelings. They can very well feel what is going on. I am not that technical to point out if they have nervous system or not, though.
I agree about non-strict Jain-like Ahimsa.
Regards. | Which plants in particular? I do know that vaishnavs will avoid onions, garlic and caffiene for certain reasons.
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19-Jul-2004, 21:31 PM
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| | | | | Result of the research was - All plants have feelings of pain and pleasure. It went to exntent which said that they respond differently with respect to stimuli like anger, hatred, music. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=246
However, I dont recall from which book or article I studied these experiements. | 
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