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Similarities, Differences? I know it is constantly argued that Science is not at all similar to Religion but I would like more explanation on why. Just wondering...
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Re: Science vs Religion

First you have to define exactly what you think "Religion" is.

Is it just a belief in a diety or having faith in something without the facts to prove it? If so, than many passages in Sikhism and Buddhism probably shouldn't be considered "religion".

Also, people claim they have faith in things or believe in certain things without the aspect of religion.

Take Buddhism for example where everything is on a trial basis, and since its a "mind reformation" program, it doesn't necessarily work on everyone and there are cases which can't be explained. But, if you do practice the techniques, it may or may not work for you, its for you to test and find out. This is evidence, there is no faith here...The Buddha said you can test and find out if it works for you, he also said that its been tested by him and many other people before and after him that vouch and say the given technique does work to release mental stress. Now, when so many cases appear, is that considered evidence? If so, than why is Buddhism still considered a "religion" ?

Even in Science, Evolutionists took Darwins theory and are trying to apply it to every case, but they do not know if it will work with everyone or every specific case they look at. In this way, they have faith, that hopefully Darwin is right, and they are testing it out to see if it works (evidence). So can Evolution be a religion ?
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/interfaith-dialogues/2453-science-vs-religion.html
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=2453

There's alot of gray lines on this topic, and the major differences occur when what you think defines the term "religion."
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Re: Science vs Religion

This is a simple issue.

All truths eminate from God.
Therefor, all truths, whether scientific or religious cannot contradict one another. Because God cannot contradict Himself.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=2453

So, if any part of Sikhism contradicts a scientific claim, either it is the science that is wrong or it is Sikhism.
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Re: Science vs Religion

Dear Khalsa Ji,
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=2453

Science is a way to seek truth in nature. Religion is a path to search the truth behind nature.

The science looks at a smaller and smallar level. Religion tries to grasp the toality of creation as one.

Science is based on analysis. Religion tries to synthesise.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=2453

Science is mostly through perception observation and demonstration. Religion mostly is intuition and logic.

The two appear to be two poles but it is not so.

If you conceptualise the God as 'Cosmic Intelligence'. Science and Religion both become paths to understand and reach the same.

One i.e. the science follows the route of understanding the observed by splitting into smaller and smaller entities; while the other i.e. the religion tries to integrate and fuse what is observed.

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Re: Science vs Religion

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Science is based on analysis. Religion is tries to synthesise.
I like this.

Amarpal ji, your way of explanation in simple words, is the thing, I admire a lot

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Re: Science vs Religion

Dear Arvind Ji,
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=2453

It is all 'The Sat'. I am only an instrument, a sevadaar.

With love and respect for all.

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Re: Science vs Religion

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This is a simple issue.

All truths eminate from God.
Therefor, all truths, whether scientific or religious cannot contradict one another. Because God cannot contradict Himself.
Justrandeepsingh,

Heh I'm not sure on this one, do younot find that the World is full of contradictions. How can God be a part of, yet apart from Gods creation?

Or perhaps it is true to say that our understanding of contradictions is not yet full?

Any how I believe your self and Amarpal have it right. Science and religion are just two parts of the myriad ways in which we try to understand the universe around us, and our place in it, or to put it another way, God and Gods plan.

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Or perhaps it is true to say that our understanding of contradictions is not yet full?
I tend to agree with this.
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Justrandeepsingh,

Heh I'm not sure on this one, do younot find that the World is full of contradictions. How can God be a part of, yet apart from Gods creation?

Or perhaps it is true to say that our understanding of contradictions is not yet full?

Any how I believe your self and Amarpal have it right. Science and religion are just two parts of the myriad ways in which we try to understand the universe around us, and our place in it, or to put it another way, God and Gods plan.

Cheers,

Lee.
Lee,

Nothing is an actual contradiction. People may be contradictory, but that means that they are hypocrits or liars. Never in nature will you find an actual contradiction, like 1=2. I agree with your statement that something might seem contradictory, but that's because we do not know it in full. For instance, the notion that the Sun rises contradicts the fact that the earth revolves around the sun. In that case, the sun is not actually rising, but only appears so from our vantage point, there is no contradiction.

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