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| | | | | In search of the one true religion "If all the religions of the world were in harmony each other, there would have been one religion, but since they all oppose each other there is one true religion." Swami Dayanand
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10-Mar-2005, 08:19 AM
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| | | | | Re: In search of the one true religion Namastae Vijay Singh
I hope you are not offended, its just an open discussion.
I think its more to do with cultural and upbringing rather than religion, in some cases. And generalising this is immature. And let us live in reality and in not dillusion, religious followers and non-followers are here to stay as long as there is life on earth. Is swami ji not doing the same thing of opposing other religious philosphies.
How are you going to tackle the religions ? i guess, by eliminating each religious followers from this mother earth... I just visited your website full of misinterpretations as far as sikhism is concerned and shockingly could not found anything enlightening to my mind but swami ji opposing all religions and creating his own religion of No Religion. How does his philosophy any different if only thing he says is oppose others philosophy.
What kind of harmony are you talking about ? i guess keeping on following rituals when there is no logical explanation to it. What kind of opposition you are talking about ? Does opposing sati pratha, caste system, advising against taking tobacco (Europian Union recently declared a ruling of banning tobacco consumption for certain age group) or advocating for gender equality, does that amount to creating disharmony ? I think keeping on allowing such tradtitions lurking in our community is a useless harmony.
Fighting for freedom of others is creating disharmony OR does keeping on tolerating the atrocities by other fellow being means living in harmony ? We need to be more realistic. Quote: |
"If all the religions of the world were in harmony each other, there would have been one religion, but since they all oppose each other there is one true religion." Swami Dayanand
| Vijay Singh ji could you share your personal thoughs about what this above statement wants us to convey. I find this statement nothing but simple ignorance, generalising one phenomemon without searching it from every perspective is not a hallmark of a good philosopher or thinker.
We will continue.
Namastae | 
10-Mar-2005, 20:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Critical Singh I hope you are not offended, its just an open discussion. | Namaste Critical Singhji,
A man who has found the truth and lives by it can never be offended, but those who oppose this truth will be offfended. Quote: |
Originally Posted by Critical Singh How are you going to tackle the religions ? i guess, by eliminating each religious followers from this mother earth... I just visited your website full of misinterpretations as far as sikhism is concerned and shockingly could not found anything enlightening to my mind but swami ji opposing all religions and creating his own religion of No Religion. How does his philosophy any different if only thing he says is oppose others philosophy. | The Vedic religion is not a new creation but a rediscovery from among the pile of rubbish of false dogmas that have plagued the world for nearly 5000 years. Our intention is not to eliminate anyone but to disseminate truth whether they like it or not. This is kaliyug and the kind of distruction at hand is ligitimate according to the dictates of natural laws (progression downwards), but for those who have the inclination to rise from it, however few they are, this is their chance. Quote: |
Originally Posted by Critical Singh Vijay Singh ji could you share your personal thoughs about what this above statement wants us to convey. I find this statement nothing but simple ignorance, generalising one phenomemon without searching it from every perspective is not a hallmark of a good philosopher or thinker.
We will continue.
Namastae | "If all the religions of the world were in harmony with each other, there would have been one religion, but since they all oppose each other there is one true religion." Swami Dayanand.
If all the religions of the world are good enough for salvation, what was the need for them all, when the first one still remains valid?
A philosopher is one who can reason and had you taken time to peruse my site, there would have been much to learn instead of just concluding that it is "ignorance". I have investigated all religions and it is enough to say that all "perspective" were considered, truly the "hallmark of a good philosopher or thinker". I suggest you read and think very clearly before dismissing the swami's mission as those of anyone else of the other faiths.
Regards,
Vj
Ps. You have the right to defend your faith, so please tell me where I have accused anyone, most important your gurus, falsely. | 
10-Mar-2005, 21:22 PM
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| | | | | Re: In search of the one true religion Ek Oankar Wahiguru Ji Ki Fateh
Dear Bandhu VJSingh, Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/interfaith-dialogues/2320-in-search-of-one-true-religion.htmlReference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=2320
Jai Shree Ram from another Vijay(deep) Singh.
You will find very much at home here.You know why?
you will get purest of Holy bible Bible,Holy Kuran Holy Guru Granth Sahib Ji,
And as you follw late Dayanad Ji Maharaj He was also purest of Veda.
Other then one or two people like Das(vijaydeep Singh) who belive in Sanatan Dhrama that same Sanatan Dharam started by God Akal has one name Khalsa here,Islam in Middles east and Christinanity in west are no difference but are singing glory of Akal.Vedas do the same.
So as swami Dayanand Ji were purerirst and we call such persons as bigot.so he could not precive the Truth in all Faiths but was more after contradiction.
You will get many Sikhs here who are Arya Samaj version of Sikhism.And Arya Samaj is christianised version of Sanatan Dhrama or hinduism what you say.
If as per Sanskrit a frog can not see water outside his well.Then he can deny that ocean exists. And frog of well is very innocent as it does not know about the ocean. Dayanand ji did not get any spiritual power so he denied its existance all togather.
Har Har Mahdev.
Supreme God is destroyer. | 
10-Mar-2005, 22:30 PM
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| | | | | Re: In search of the one true religion Ek Oankar Wahiguru Ji Ki Fateh
Like Wahabis,like Luthranians,like Arya Samaj, Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=2320
We have Sikhs here who think that there Faith is OK and all other are false.
They all have one religeon called fundamentalism.
They can not worship God but will worship hatred.The four Rishis on whom Akal Sent Vedas were not like that.Nor were conrtributer of Holy Bible or Holy Kuran nor of Gurbani. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=2320
Das feels pity about them.And till such people are there world can not live in peeace there has to be a conflict.But if evil is not there then how could we feel good. | 
20-Mar-2005, 22:18 PM
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Originally Posted by vijaydeep Singh Ek Oankar Wahiguru Ji Ki Fateh
Like Wahabis,like Luthranians,like Arya Samaj,
We have Sikhs here who think that there Faith is OK and all other are false. | Here is the difference between them and me - they "think" (doubt) but I know ( certain).
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Vj | 
21-Mar-2005, 22:00 PM
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| | | | | Re: In search of the one true religion Gurfateh
Dear Singhvj, Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=2320
Just tell Das why do you think that you are certion.Just tell me this that what makes your brain to work.Or what is the reason of its working.Till this day non the docters are able to expalin that. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=2320
Das think you can at least tell with the help of 'Fifth' Veda the Satyarth Prakash.
Das needs an explaination from you that why your brain work?
Do not avoid it like most of others of Arya Samajis who say it is its nature OK then why is the nature of the brain to think?And before Body is formed why does not it think or when we die why does not it continues to think.
Das has the answer.But Das wants to know it from you. | 
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| | | | | Re: In search of the one true religion Gurfateh
Singhvj Bandhu says that he is certion.
Was he certion before 100 years and will he be there after hundred year to be certion? Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=2320
Is his existance certion or realtive let him tell? | 
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Originally Posted by vijaydeep Singh Gurfateh
Singhvj Bandhu says that he is certion.
Was he certion before 100 years and will he be there after hundred year to be certion?
Is his existance certion or realtive let him tell? | I am certain of the truth which has always been in harmony with reasoning, science and in conformity with natural laws. I, like all wisemen before me will depart this world, but the truth will continue by someone else. So what is a 100 years when this truth existed from the very beginning of this creation, 2 billion years ago and particulary this chataryuga of more than 3 million 700 thousand years? | 
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| | | | | Re: In search of the one true religion Ek Oankar Wahiguru Ji Ki Fateh Quote: |
I am certain of the truth which has always been in harmony with reasoning, science and in conformity with natural laws. I, like all wisemen before me will depart this world, but the truth will continue by someone else. So what is a 100 years when this truth existed from the very beginning of this creation, 2 billion years ago and particulary this chataryuga of more than 3 million 700 thousand years?
| Well Das is an idiot and you are realy a wiseman.And there were some wise men before you and there will be after you.But all will come and Go.So they are temporary and false.
You talk of time and Kalp(four ages or Chatur Yuga) but is that time true.The time at whcih das wrote pasted as it decayed and gone for ever like 2 billon year before and even before it time was there and same is not know.Had it been true then same time would have been still to be found.
There could be time when your Vedas were not there and there will be a time when the same will also decay and vanish.
One who 'created all ' will reamin for ever.
When nature is something temporary and not true as not eternal then how can the laws be eternal. | 
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