I checked first with your Admin and was told I could repost this because the previous one fell victim to the forum upgrade.. LOL. I apologize in advance if anyone disapproves.

I am the admin over at Islam Factor forum. I would like to extend an invitation to you to participate in the threads on our forum.

We have a diverse member based from many faiths (and non-faith ppl). I hope to explore and promote diversity on our forum. We have Christians, Muslims, Atheists, etc. The one thing we dont have is Sikh representation.

Our site is dedicated to freedom of expression and diversity with a focus on confronting Islamic extremism and promoting tolerance. We hope to promote a mutual understanding of cooperation and working together on the forum.

I don't want our forum to go without at least some people from the Sikh community to offer challenging discussion on ANY issue that concerns them or to act as a counterbalance on issues related to them.

More particularly, I am interested in people who can tell us about the Sikh faith as well as your perspectives.

My main goal in inviting you all is for the sole purpose of helping our members learn about Sikhism as I have worked with Sikhs in the past to help educate the public. It was something that I originally did for Muslims but then included Sikhs as I found that they ha become mistaken for Muslims unfairly in hate crimes and saw the need for public education on the topic.

If you are interested, please feel free to join and participate. I look forward to seeing you there.

The link is: Islam Factor

Please also read our Purpose of Forum post to find out more.

Islam Factor

Have a great day!

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Well its good thing sikhs are not there. Coz all sikhs are busy in Meditating on the God as our Guru ji says


ਅਗਿਆਨਮਤੀ ਸਦਾ ਅੰਧਿਆਰਾ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਬੂਝਿ ਹਰਿ ਗਾਵਣਿਆ ॥੨॥
अगिआनमती सदा अंधिआरा गुरमुखि बूझि हरि गावणिआ ॥२॥
Agi*ānmaṯī saḏā anḏẖi*ārā gurmukẖ būjẖ har gāvaṇi*ā. ||2||
The foolish intellectuals are forever in spiritual darkness. The Gurmukhs understand, and sing the Glorious Praises of the Lord. ||2||



So I discourage Sikhs going there and Arguing with muslims/christians on foolish matter. WE all know what is true. Nobody gonna listen to us anyways, coz truth is bitter always.

If you guys could find god, that will be great. we pray for you as well.. Be strong in your faith and forgive us

thanks
stupidjassi

I think you didnt really read anything of what I wrote in this invite nor did you take the time to check out the forum purpose. Of all the Sikhs I have worked with (in real life) I never met one who was opposed to the idea of dialogue, mutual understanding and cooperation. Guess there is a first time for everything

This is not a site devoted to converting people. Re-read my invite and it tells you the purpose. No one asked you to argue or convert. Your post is unfair.

Also, I checked with your admin. If they thought this was a bad invite, they wouldnt have let me post it on the forum here.

Again, re-read my invite.

I am equally open to opening a special Sikh section where sikhs can pin-up their beliefs for everyone to read.

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It is ironical, I think you have misunderstood my post. Probably you need to re-read my reply despite of perusing me to read yours.

As you yourself said , ' This is not a site devoted to converting people.'. I have never thought in that way, even i have not blamed you for inventing a new way to trap people with innocent discussion.

The reason why i discourage dialogue because I except the discussion to be more in the way argument specific and less about singing the praise of God. I have hardly heard about any time, or any place where muslims/ christians ever sing Psalm of the Almighty one. in fact they always waste their time in meaningless discussion, So what do i expect if sikhs/ hindu also evolve .

No body gonna listen to anyone because Muslim and christians are professional Missionary ( forgive me if it hurts) as Harjas Kaur Khalsa also meant.

On the other hand there are still tons of innocent Sikh/hindu/bhudist who probably are waiting for a time to get convert.

What type of discussion do you expect anyways? If you want to read about Sikhism ,come here , we`ll happy to teach you. But if you want to invite us for pointless discussion i am sorry.

I don't think Sikhism does beilve in meaningless conversation. If you want to discuss with somebody why you don't discuss your issues with God himself?

See ,even right now i am wasting my time in arguing you . i could better use my time in having simran etc.

I apologize for harsh response but truth is always bitter :P
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stupidjassi

Singing the praises of God is commendable. I wouldn't know why you wouldnt want to share that with the world.

Second, we are not a missionary forum (said for the second time). Read our forum Purpose (again, for the second time). Seems the only missionary is the one telling me about truth hurting Interesting comment since I havent done or said anything but invite you.

You dont know my relationship with God to say that I dont already discuss things with him. that is not the purpose of my invite. My invite is to improve awareness about Sikhism (among other faiths and ideas on our forum).

Again, this isnt only about my learning, but the learning of many others who wouldnt ordinarily come to a Sikh forum, who are still willing to learn about Sikhism. Come to the forum and find out.

We are more than happy to host Sikhs on our forum. I dont know why you would turn down a hand of friendship.

Have a nice day

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So, your saying that you cannot establish friendship with a Christian or Muslim because you are scared of their innate intentions of converting you?

Sounds silly to me. Especially, since my invite was for you all to tell us about Sikhism, not to discuss conversion or anything leading to conversion.

Im not interested in converting Christians, Jews, Sikhs or anyone. Just to hear opinions, learn, and offer the same for our members.

I even offered to start a special Sikh section if need be, but no one seems to read that part of my invite. Nor is there any reading of the part where I have worked with Sikhs to increase awareness and tolerance when wrongfully identified and targetted in backlashes against Muslims.

If you are not interested, ignore the invite, but dont prejudge my intentions, relationship with God, and our forum when you have not been a part of establishing relationships with the many good people (from all faiths) on our forum.

If the history of Christianity and Islam is no friend to Sikhs, then tell us it. I think you will find that maybe we dont agree with some of the things people have done in the name of our religions. If you read the purpose of our forum thread, you would see that clearly. Furthermore, just because our religions have clashed in the past, doesnt mean we cant forge a new relationship that will benefit us in the future. The world is getting smaller and we need to learn to tolerate and live together in peace, even among difference.

Like I tell the Muslims, dont act like crabs in a barrel. When one tries to get out the others pull him back down into the pit. Lets work towards new friendships.

Kind Regards

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Islamfac;
I went over and read some of your boards;including the Jewish one (I am) and I applaud your efforts. But right now Sikhi ihas going through a period of aggressive missionizing by Muslims, and you should realize that Sikhs don't have priests or religious qazis who have ready responses at their fingertips. So many are here learning more.
I think that may be a part of it.
all the best

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Dear Islamfac


Welcome to this forum !

And I would like to appreciate and thank you for the efforts you are puting in bring harmony

I wish and hope your efforts bring the desired results as per the will of God

Jatinder Singh

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