Why no meat served in Gurdwara

drkhalsa · #19 (**permalink**) 20-Nov-2007, 22:46 PM

Dear Santokh ji

I dont know whether you know this or not
Even Today there are Gurdwara where neat is served . I have myself taken Goat meat in Langar In delhi in gurdwara
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/interfaith-dialogues/18095-why-no-meat-served-in-gurdwara.html

While in Uk I have met many people from Afghan who informed that that Meat is no taboo to thier culture and gurdwara

I n India Due to heavy influenceof Vaishnite and also need of the time as nearly 20 % devotees to any gurdwara even Hrimandar Sahib are non sikhs even today so there needs to be taken care off

When the langra was started at our guruji time the main devotees were either Hindu or Muslim and both had contrasting Diets although there were non Veg Hindus but Muslim wont eat Non Halal meat so the rreason it was eliminated from Langar probably

This fact is even more brought to clarity by the fact that Sevapanthi preacher who used to preach to muslim were veg only due to fact that NON Halal meat is not acceptable to Muslims

Why are 3HO and Gora Sikhs vegetarians ?

for 3 HO Sikhs Bhajan Singh Yogi ji was Water shed Line and they cant cross it at anty cost so they are mostly vegetrain due to him and also the Kundalini Yoga they practice

Why are Nirmala Sikhs vegetarians ?

As I know from various sources like Vijaydeep singh who is regular Vistor to Nirmala Akharas They are not gainst Meat eating and allow the house holder to eat meat

Why are Namdharis vegetarians ?

This group has Living Guru and they Follow instructions according ly

Why are Radha Soamis vegetarians ?

This not a Sikh gropu by any Dimension so need to comment

Why are AKJ's vegetarians ?

This group started by Bhai Randhir Singh ji is league of its own and mantian very strict maryada which is differtnt from main Stream maryada
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=18095
they just add to diversity of sikh culture . and mind you Meat is one of the minor Issue compred to many contrasting Idea this group has

the Group you didnt mentioned are

Taksal Sikhs - they are also vegetarian

Nihang singh group - they are Mixed Group

Their are two kinds of them some are vegetarian and other non vegetarian but those vegetarian dont make non veg a issue like AKJ

And yes you are Right Randip Singh is THE EXPERT on the Issue!

Archived_Member1 · #20 (**permalink**) 20-Nov-2007, 22:58 PM

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Originally Posted by kds1980

The best answer to your question is that langar is for everybody and there is no way a vegetarian is going to eat langar with non vegetarians.and also this custom is now deeply rooted in the mentality of sikhs so there is no way it is going to be changed.

100% agreed. this is the explanation i have always heard. langar is for EVERYONE. if meat is served we're automatically limiting the groups of people who can eat with us. therefore it's more fair to serve only food that everyone can eat.

kds1980 · #21 (**permalink**) 20-Nov-2007, 23:00 PM

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Originally Posted by kelly_kaur

100% agreed. this is the explanation i have always heard. langar is for EVERYONE. if meat is served we're automatically limiting the groups of people who can eat with us. therefore it's more fair to serve only food that everyone can eat.

Kelly just a question to you if you don't mind .are you a vegetarian as santokh singh ji mentioned that gore(white) sikhs are vegetarian.

Archived_Member1 · #22 (**permalink**) 20-Nov-2007, 23:01 PM

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Originally Posted by begum

Why are 3HO and Gora Sikhs vegetarians ?
Why are Nirmala Sikhs vegetarians ?
Why are Namdharis vegetarians ?
Why are Radha Soamis vegetarians ?
Why are AKJ's vegetarians ?
Why are Sufis vegetarians ?

3HO is a yoga cult, they are vegetarian for their yoga practice. please don't lump all white sikhs in with 3HO, many of us are just normal sikhs and some even eat meat.

nirmalas are hindus with turbans (sorry if anyone finds this offensive, but sanatan sikhs follow a lot of hindu traditions, including vegetarianism)

namdhari are a cult

radha soami are a cult

AKJ i have a lot of respect for, if they don't want to eat meat that's fine. i've never met any AKJ sikh who tried to make non-veg sikhs eat only veg.

i was unaware that sufis do not eat meat, can you show some proof of this?

thanks!

Archived_Member1 · #23 (**permalink**) 20-Nov-2007, 23:04 PM

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Originally Posted by kds1980

Kelly just a question to you if you don't mind .are you a vegetarian as santokh singh ji mentioned that gore(white) sikhs are vegetarian.

i was a vegetarian before i was a sikh. i did not change my eating habits after adopting sikhism. however, i do not believe whether we eat meat or not has anything to do with religion. it's purely personal choice.

my panj piyare told me that we are allowed to eat meat as long as it is not killed in the muslim fashion (halal).

gurfateh!

kds1980 · #24 (**permalink**) 20-Nov-2007, 23:11 PM

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AKJ i have a lot of respect for, if they don't want to eat meat that's fine. i've never met any AKJ sikh who tried to make non-veg sikhs eat only veg.

AKJ's are hardcore vegetarians .In no way they accept people who eat meat as sikhs.if you visit their forum Tapoban.org you will find that they don't accept meat eating people as sikhs.I treid to debate with them on many forums with them but its useless they are very orthodox on this issue

Archived_Member1 · #25 (**permalink**) 21-Nov-2007, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by kds1980

AKJ's are hardcore vegetarians .In no way they accept people who eat meat as sikhs.if you visit their forum Tapoban.org you will find that they don't accept meat eating people as sikhs.I treid to debate with them on many forums with them but its useless they are very orthodox on this issue

that's possible... i've noticed that people are generally friendlier in person than online, so maybe that explains the difference in attitude.

drkhalsa · #26 (**permalink**) 21-Nov-2007, 23:40 PM

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nirmalas are hindus with turbans (sorry if anyone finds this offensive, but sanatan sikhs follow a lot of hindu traditions, including vegetarianism)

I hope you have met one before making this opinion

I got chance to meet Nirmala sant at there place in Haridwar . It was amazing experience , Yes they study Lot of Hindu literature bit the purpose is altogether different

They keep unshorn hairs , have Parkash of Guru Granth Sahib just in same marayada with Nitem banis done regularly

i was just sharing what I know about them

Jatinder Singh

Archived_Member1 · #27 (**permalink**) 22-Nov-2007, 00:01 AM

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Originally Posted by drkhalsa

I hope you have met one before making this opinion

I got chance to meet Nirmala sant at there place in Haridwar . It was amazing experience , Yes they study Lot of Hindu literature bit the purpose is altogether different

They keep unshorn hairs , have Parkash of Guru Granth Sahib just in same marayada with Nitem banis done regularly

i was just sharing what I know about them

Jatinder Singh

thanks Jatinder ji... i should probably not make statements like that..

i'm basing my opinion on online experiences, maybe not the best idea.