Muslim Canadian Congress endorses Same-Sex Marriage legislation

CaramelChocolate · #1 (**permalink**) 09-Feb-2005, 01:15 AM

Press Release - From the Muslim Canadian Congress - February 1, 2005

http://www.muslimcanadiancongress.org

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Muslim Canadian Congress endorses Same-Sex Marriage legislation

OTTAWA - The Muslim Canadian Congress, a Toronto-based grassroots organization, has welcomed the legislation presented by Justice Minister Irvin Cotler that re-defines marriage to include same-sex partners, and has urged Muslims and other minority groups to stand in solidarity with gays and lesbians.

Addressing a press conference in Ottawa this morning, Rizwana Jafri, president of the MCC said Muslim Canadians have experienced life as a marginalized minority and have relied on the Canadian Charter to fight for their right to be treated as equal citizens. "It is incumbent upon us, as a minority, to stand up in solidarity with Canada’s gays and lesbians despite the fact that many in our community believe our religion does not condone homosexuality," she added.

"This legislation is not about religion; it is about fundamental and universal human rights that are a guarantee that all Canadians, irrespective of their religious or ethnic background, feel part of the same family. While, within this family, we may agree to disagree we must respect each other and treat others with dignity that is a hallmark of civil society, Ms. Jafri added.

Ms. Jafri appealed to social conservative Muslim organizations to stop being used by the Conservative Party who are using this controversy to score political points by spreading fear among racial minorities.

She appealed to Prime Minister Paul Martin to make sure his caucus supports the legislation and are not allowed to wriggle out of their responsibility to respect Human Rights and the decisions of majority of Provincial Courts. Ms. Jafri thanked the NDP leader Jack Layton for enforcing party discipline and not allowing dissent on this important matter.

She called on Paul Martin to invite NDP leader Jack Layton and Gilles Duceppe of the Bloc Québécois to tour the country to build support for this historic legislation and present a common front on human rights.

Tarek Fatah, host of the CTS-TV show, The Muslim Chronicle, criticized the fear mongering started by some religious institutions against same-sex marriage. "The religious institutions who are spreading fear among their congregations are not being honest about this law. No mosque, church, temple, or synagogue will ever have to conduct a same-sex marriage if they don’t wish to. The guarantee of the freedom of religion in our constitution and the legislation presented today ensure that every Canadian will continue to have the right to practice their religion as they deem fit. However, freedom of religion cannot come at the cost of limiting the rights of other groups in society.
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Mr. Fatah said that under thinly veiled camouflage of cultural and religious practices, a message of hate and homophobia was being cultivated. "The hate mongering against gays and lesbians must be stopped. Places of worship should never be permitted to demean a section of the community who are a minority, he added.

Barrister Arif Raza told the press conference that he understood the concerns of some Muslims who are worried that allowing same-sex marriage will dilute the institution of marriage, but emphasized that those asking for Prime Minister Martin to use the Notwithstanding Clause should understand that one day, the rights of Muslims too could be compromised if the using the Notwithstanding clause became a precedent.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=1743

"I urge Canada’s Muslim community and other minority communities to show solidarity with Canada’s gays and lesbians even if they have reservations about homosexuality. We don’t have to agree with each other to stand up for the human rights of those with whom we disagree, Mr. Raza added. He asked Canadians to be generous, kind and compassionate in this matter. By supporting the rights of a minority, we will be able to walk with our heads held high among the nations of this earth. "Today we have an opportunity to stand tall and demonstrate that fighting for human rights is only worthwhile when we fight it for the other, not just for ourselves," said Arif Raza.

muslim · #2 (**permalink**) 17-Feb-2005, 15:21 PM

Yes Caramel MUSLIM congress endores same sex marriage, thanks for making that so blatenly obivious. Once again i shall say is a person who allows homosexuality or is one himself actually a true muslim? sure he might have the name and even the dress code but a muslim is one of actions and deeds, and homosexuality is not one of the good deeds but of the bad. Allah has created us in pairs to mate with the opposite and to love and cherish our wives and as out prophet once said and i am paraphrasing here "the best of men are those who treat their wives well, with love, respect and all other virtues good."
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=1743

And caramel if you blame being homosexual or ur DNA and not your own choice or upbringing what if science prooves that other sinful acts such as rape, drinking and gambling all had genes found within us and made us do these acts or more likely would you allow these acts to be accepted? Would you allow them to carry on with the excuse "its not my fault i was born like this?" Would you allow rape to go on, would that make it ok or accpetable?

CaramelChocolate · #3 (**permalink**) 17-Feb-2005, 19:41 PM

Homosexual love occurs between two consenting adults, it does not cause them any harm.
Alcohol - affects others in society [drunkards].
Rape - no consent.
Although there are psychological reasons for things such as rape, it is still not justified since there is no consent and victims will be mentally affected.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=1743

Your comments make me laugh. If you actually listen to what I had said you would see that homosexuality is not specifically outlawed in the Qu'ran. THAT is why I have been debating it because the Qu'ran is NOT clear on the issue.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=1743

http://www.sikhphilosophy.com/sikhph...ead.php?t=1371
Read my last response on that thread [which you still have not replied to], my arguments are all there.