Was Rajneesh The Right Person to Translate Japji Sahib?

PCJS · #1 (**permalink**) 10-Nov-2006, 01:16 AM

I saw a very nasty video by Rajneesh that it would be shameful for a Sikh to even post it here. I have heard from many people that Rajneesh has described Japji Sahib very well. I am wondering if people agree that Rajneesh was not the appropriate person to do vyakhya on Japji Sahib. I don't believe he was a spiritual.
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Arvind · #2 (**permalink**) 10-Nov-2006, 21:18 PM

If you are really interested, then you need to spend more time to read and understood Osho Rajneesh well... and not just comment based on one or a few videos or books.

Hai_Bhi_Sach · #3 (**permalink**) 19-Jan-2007, 21:15 PM

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Re: Was Rajneesh the right person to translate Japji Sahib?
If you are really interested, then you need to spend more time to read and understood Osho Rajneesh well... and not just comment based on one or a few videos or books.

Well said Arvind ji. I second it.

vaapaaraa · #4 (**permalink**) 19-Jan-2007, 21:33 PM

he had told that only Guru Nanak Ji was enlightened, and the other Gurus were ordinary ppl, he was widely attacked by Sikhs and but got saved from death.
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Dont follow fools like Osho. He used to read all day in library, thats where he got his "knowledge".

Arvind · #5 (**permalink**) 19-Jan-2007, 23:13 PM

Question: How many of members have heard or read Osho's translation first hand... without getting influenced by his other trains of thoughts.

PCJS · #6 (**permalink**) 20-Jan-2007, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Arvind

If you are really interested, then you need to spend more time to read and understood Osho Rajneesh well... and not just comment based on one or a few videos or books.

Let's put it this way. Spirituality is like pure water. Even a single drop of dirty water in it destroys it all...

Tejwant Singh · #7 (**permalink**) 20-Jan-2007, 02:56 AM

Rajneesh was a charlaton and a criminal. His sect OSHO had plans to poison the city water system is Oregon. Fortunatley they were caught before the crime took place. They commited other crimes. His right hand adviser was jailed for bribery. Free sex/ group sex were mode de jour at his Ashrams. In order to avoid prison, Rajneesh agreed to be deported.
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With the character like this, it becomes an insult if one claims to interpret Guru Nanak's Gurbani.

Lotus can grow in muck however not all kinds of muck can make a lotus grow. Rajneesh belonged to the latter.I have listened to Rajneesh's interpretation of Japji. Nothing to write home about. Too much Hindutva in it.
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Tejwant

A_Learner · #8 (**permalink**) 06-Jan-2008, 17:29 PM

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Originally Posted by VaheguruSeekr

Rajneesh was a charlaton and a criminal. His sect OSHO had plans to poison the city water system is Oregon. Fortunatley they were caught before the crime took place. They commited other crimes. His right hand adviser was jailed for bribery. Free sex/ group sex were mode de jour at his Ashrams. In order to avoid prison, Rajneesh agreed to be deported.

With the character like this, it becomes an insult if one claims to interpret Guru Nanak's Gurbani.

Lotus can grow in muck however not all kinds of muck can make a lotus grow. Rajneesh belonged to the latter.I have listened to Rajneesh's interpretation of Japji. Nothing to write home about. Too much Hindutva in it.

Tejwant

Folks, it is very easy to criticize somebody. And especially those who are spiritually connected. Whatever character Rajneesh had should not be the question, your intension should be to find out whether he did a good job in explaining the meaning of Japji Sahib or not.... (A true soul can be of a sex worker, while a filthy one can be of pundit )

And I think he has done an excellent job. I have listened to his translation and, from my experience, I can say that his viyakha was completely lucid and comprehensive. One of the best I have heard.
Guru Nanak's banis have extra-ordinary depth, comparatively. And he has done well in exploring that.

At the end of the translation you become a bigger fan of Guru Nanak's explanations than Rajneesh.
I think his translation should be recorded done in English too.

simpy · #9 (**permalink**) 07-Jan-2008, 03:31 AM

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Rajneesh was a charlaton and a criminal. His sect OSHO had plans to poison the city water system is Oregon. Fortunatley they were caught before the crime took place. They commited other crimes. His right hand adviser was jailed for bribery. Free sex/ group sex were mode de jour at his Ashrams. In order to avoid prison, Rajneesh agreed to be deported.

no wonder Veer Balbir Ji is in his favor:

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Originally Posted by Balbir Singh

He was a great orator. God blessed him with higher consciousness than usual. God also arranged great Satsangs through him.

me neech cannot thank Dhan Dhan Siri Guru Sahibaan enough for blessing us with Gurbani-DHAN DHAN SIRI GURU GRANTH SAHIB

me neech is humbly asking for everybody's forgiveness