Translating A Vaar of Bhai Gurdas. Please Help If You Can Understand Punjabi!

roopsidhu · #11 (**permalink**) 02-Oct-2006, 18:27 PM

SSA to all brothers
The Pauri of vaar 5 in question is:-
soun sagun beechaaranae noun greh baareh raas veechaaraa||
kaaman ttoonae aouseeaaan kan sohee paasaar paasaaraa||
gadhon kuthae bileeaaan eil malaalee gidharr shhaaraa|
naar purakh paanee agan shhik padh hiddakee varathaaraa|
thhith vaar bhadharaan bharam dhishaashool sehisaa sansaaraa||
val shhal kar visavaas lakh bahu chukheen kioun ravai pathaaraa||
guramukh sukh fal paar outhaaraa ||

Let's first note the word meanings line by line
Soun = from Hindu "saun shashtar" science of studying shagun and upshaguns, Sagun = shagun (good happening). Better to read both first words together as soun sagun which would mean study of shagun and upshaguns. Beechaarnae = to study, Noun greh = nine planets, Raas = rashi (horoscope) veechaaraa = studied.
Kaaman = wish, ttoonae = magical incantation, aouseeaaan = drawing lines on earth, kan = Another magical way practices by hindu which is called kan nikalana also, sohee = that same Paasaar = publicity , parchaar message, paasaaraa = spread.
Gadhon = donkey, kuthae = dogs, bileeaaan = cats, eil = eagle, malaalee = Shayama (an animal) , gidharr = Jackal , shhaaraa = a kind of crow.
Naar purakh = man woman, paanee = water, agan = fire, shhik = sneezing Padh = breaking wind (passing of wind noisily, hiddakee = hiccups, varathaaraa= behavior
thhith = Dates as per Hindu lunar system, vaar = days, bhadharaan = dates of dooj saptami etc as per hindu calendar, bharam = doubt, dhishaashool = study of going or not going to a particular direction on a particular time, sehisaa = scared, sansaaraa = world
Val shhal kar = doing tricks and duping, visavaas = believe, lakh = a unit of conting, bahu = several, chukheen = very little, kioun = why, ravai = speak, pathaaraa = insulting language
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/interfaith-dialogues/14090-translating-vaar-bhai-gurdas-if-you.html
guramukh = Guru's follower, sukh = comfort, fal = fruit, paar = across the sea, outhaaraa = landing across the sea
After studying all the word meanings carefully the abouve pauri can be explained as given hereunder:
They study of the science of good or bad happenings, nine planets and by study twelve houses of horoscope. By magical incantations to fulfill wish, drawing lines on earth, picking up the kaan (particle) etc is also that same message (parchaar) is being spread. They believe in Donkey, dogs, cats, eagles, shayama bird, jackals, and a kind of crow. Hindu calendar dates, days, dooj saptam days, and the doubt of study of going to different directions (dishashool) has scared the whole world. Why they do tricks and duping after taking in confidence and many or little times why they utter insulting words. The fruit and the comfort of being guru's disciple is "happy landing across the worldly ocean".
Central idea: - To believe in shaguns, upshaguns, planets, horoscopes, magical incantations, drawing lines is all useless. Same way to link the happenings to the animal's birds, dates, days, and direction is also useless. These all lead us to cheating, tricking, duping, and speaking insulting words. These all above things do nothing good for our daily life or spirituality. The best way to land cross the sea of spirituality (bhav saagar) is being gurmukh (disciple of the great guru)
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=14090

I hope this reply will help some one from Sangat
Roop Sidhu

roopsidhu · #12 (**permalink**) 02-Oct-2006, 18:44 PM

SSA to all bros
Sorry I have missed expaination of the fourth line which says

"naar purakh paanee agan shhik padh hiddakee varathaaraa|"
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=14090
Means
"to believe on superstitions like gender, water, fire, sneezes, hiccupd and breaking of wind etc is being practiced.
pls add this to the previous mail
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=14090
RoopSidhu

dalsingh · #13 (**permalink**) 02-Oct-2006, 21:40 PM

Roop,

Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=14090
Thanks for that. Your Panjabi Vocabulary is very good!!! How did you develop it?

Gyani Jarnail Singh · #14 (**permalink**) 21-Jul-2008, 11:55 AM

gadhon kuthae bileeaaan eil malaalee gidharr shhaaraa||

Cries of donkeys, dogs, cats, kites, blackbirds and jackals cannot control our lives.

[animals known but shhaaraa = ?]
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=14090

shrarra is the "sound..concert..mixture of the sounds....of all the animals together..."

Gyani jarnail Singh

Canuck Singh · #15 (**permalink**) 21-Jul-2008, 15:40 PM

Wonderful thread