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ok,
well I have a pretty decent grasp on how access works, and what i want to do.
I have the database pretty much done and the forms completed I just have one
last thing to accomplish and i dont know how to really finish it up.

Ill explain the situation.
I have a database that tracks people and contacting them.

Is there a way to lock down who can access what with Active Directory based
on thier login?

Also, searching, as in say a manager can search all aspects of information
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on the database, but the person who entered it can only access thier
information?

Also can it be that the person who entered it can not delete it, but the
manager can manipulate all the data?

I have the table done, just not the search aspect of it.

Also if there was a way to just put in everyone that was accessing the
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database could then instead lock down what search aspects were involved with
the database then?



 
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Old 02-Nov-2005, 11:47 AM
Douglas J Steele's Avatar Douglas J Steele
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Re: General Access Question

You can use Access User Level Security to achieve most of what you're
looking for, but Access doesn't interact with Active Directory: you'll have
to create new user ids within Access, and the users will have to maintain
separate passwords for those new ids.

--
Doug Steele, Microsoft Access MVP
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"mattymatt79" wrote in message
news:E013C795-6872-40C6-B27C-F1018A5D439E@microsoft.com...
> ok,
> well I have a pretty decent grasp on how access works, and what i want to

do.
> I have the database pretty much done and the forms completed I just have

one
> last thing to accomplish and i dont know how to really finish it up.
>
> Ill explain the situation.
> I have a database that tracks people and contacting them.
>
> Is there a way to lock down who can access what with Active Directory

based
> on thier login?
>
> Also, searching, as in say a manager can search all aspects of information
> on the database, but the person who entered it can only access thier
> information?
>
> Also can it be that the person who entered it can not delete it, but the
> manager can manipulate all the data?
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=6396
>
> I have the table done, just not the search aspect of it.
>
> Also if there was a way to just put in everyone that was accessing the
> database could then instead lock down what search aspects were involved

with
> the database then?



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Old 02-Nov-2005, 11:47 AM
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Re: General Access Question

Ok great post and thank you, but I'm still not sure if using the access users
and groups would do exactly what I want them to do.

Example
User A (general user) enters in customer information
User B (general user) enters in customer information

Wouldn't even with security since they are the exact table go to the exact
same security setting? Meaning that user A could view user B's information?

Also User C (manager) needs to be able to view all info, which is simple, I
just make a new group for them, but what about User A and B?


"Douglas J Steele" wrote:

> You can use Access User Level Security to achieve most of what you're
> looking for, but Access doesn't interact with Active Directory: you'll have
> to create new user ids within Access, and the users will have to maintain
> separate passwords for those new ids.
>
> --
> Doug Steele, Microsoft Access MVP
> http://I.Am/DougSteele
> (no e-mails, please!)
>
>
> "mattymatt79" wrote in message
> news:E013C795-6872-40C6-B27C-F1018A5D439E@microsoft.com...
> > ok,
> > well I have a pretty decent grasp on how access works, and what i want to

> do.
> > I have the database pretty much done and the forms completed I just have

> one
> > last thing to accomplish and i dont know how to really finish it up.
> >
> > Ill explain the situation.
> > I have a database that tracks people and contacting them.
> >
> > Is there a way to lock down who can access what with Active Directory

> based
> > on thier login?
> >
> > Also, searching, as in say a manager can search all aspects of information
> > on the database, but the person who entered it can only access thier
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> > information?
> >
> > Also can it be that the person who entered it can not delete it, but the
> > manager can manipulate all the data?
> >
> > I have the table done, just not the search aspect of it.
> >
> > Also if there was a way to just put in everyone that was accessing the
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=6396
> > database could then instead lock down what search aspects were involved

> with
> > the database then?

>
>
>

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Old 02-Nov-2005, 11:47 AM
Douglas J. Steele's Avatar Douglas J. Steele
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Re: General Access Question

You'd have to use a query to let them get at the data, as opposed to using
the table directly.

--
Doug Steele, Microsoft Access MVP
http://I.Am/DougSteele
(no e-mails, please!)



"mattymatt79" wrote in message
news:635B5792-4700-450A-9544-A34ED79838FA@microsoft.com...
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=6396
> Ok great post and thank you, but I'm still not sure if using the access
> users
> and groups would do exactly what I want them to do.
>
> Example
> User A (general user) enters in customer information
> User B (general user) enters in customer information
>
> Wouldn't even with security since they are the exact table go to the exact
> same security setting? Meaning that user A could view user B's
> information?
>
> Also User C (manager) needs to be able to view all info, which is simple,
> I
> just make a new group for them, but what about User A and B?
>
>
> "Douglas J Steele" wrote:
>
>> You can use Access User Level Security to achieve most of what you're
>> looking for, but Access doesn't interact with Active Directory: you'll
>> have
>> to create new user ids within Access, and the users will have to maintain
>> separate passwords for those new ids.
>>
>> --
>> Doug Steele, Microsoft Access MVP
>> http://I.Am/DougSteele
>> (no e-mails, please!)
>>
>>
>> "mattymatt79" wrote in message
>> news:E013C795-6872-40C6-B27C-F1018A5D439E@microsoft.com...
>> > ok,
>> > well I have a pretty decent grasp on how access works, and what i want
>> > to

>> do.
>> > I have the database pretty much done and the forms completed I just
>> > have

>> one
>> > last thing to accomplish and i dont know how to really finish it up.
>> >
>> > Ill explain the situation.
>> > I have a database that tracks people and contacting them.
>> >
>> > Is there a way to lock down who can access what with Active Directory

>> based
>> > on thier login?
>> >
>> > Also, searching, as in say a manager can search all aspects of
>> > information
>> > on the database, but the person who entered it can only access thier
>> > information?
>> >
>> > Also can it be that the person who entered it can not delete it, but
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=6396
>> > the
>> > manager can manipulate all the data?
>> >
>> > I have the table done, just not the search aspect of it.
>> >
>> > Also if there was a way to just put in everyone that was accessing the
>> > database could then instead lock down what search aspects were involved

>> with
>> > the database then?

>>
>>
>>



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Old 03-Nov-2005, 11:35 AM
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Re: General Access Question

Ok, that makes perfect sense, but would I then have to create a seperate
query for everyone that would be accessing the data inside the database? Or
is there a way to automate this?

Again, thanks for the response all

"Douglas J. Steele" wrote:

> You'd have to use a query to let them get at the data, as opposed to using
> the table directly.
>
> --
> Doug Steele, Microsoft Access MVP
> http://I.Am/DougSteele
> (no e-mails, please!)
>
>
>
> "mattymatt79" wrote in message
> news:635B5792-4700-450A-9544-A34ED79838FA@microsoft.com...
> > Ok great post and thank you, but I'm still not sure if using the access
> > users
> > and groups would do exactly what I want them to do.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=6396
> >
> > Example
> > User A (general user) enters in customer information
> > User B (general user) enters in customer information
> >
> > Wouldn't even with security since they are the exact table go to the exact
> > same security setting? Meaning that user A could view user B's
> > information?
> >
> > Also User C (manager) needs to be able to view all info, which is simple,
> > I
> > just make a new group for them, but what about User A and B?
> >
> >
> > "Douglas J Steele" wrote:
> >
> >> You can use Access User Level Security to achieve most of what you're
> >> looking for, but Access doesn't interact with Active Directory: you'll
> >> have
> >> to create new user ids within Access, and the users will have to maintain
> >> separate passwords for those new ids.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Doug Steele, Microsoft Access MVP
> >> http://I.Am/DougSteele
> >> (no e-mails, please!)
> >>
> >>
> >> "mattymatt79" wrote in message
> >> news:E013C795-6872-40C6-B27C-F1018A5D439E@microsoft.com...
> >> > ok,
> >> > well I have a pretty decent grasp on how access works, and what i want
> >> > to
> >> do.
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> >> > I have the database pretty much done and the forms completed I just
> >> > have
> >> one
> >> > last thing to accomplish and i dont know how to really finish it up.
> >> >
> >> > Ill explain the situation.
> >> > I have a database that tracks people and contacting them.
> >> >
> >> > Is there a way to lock down who can access what with Active Directory
> >> based
> >> > on thier login?
> >> >
> >> > Also, searching, as in say a manager can search all aspects of
> >> > information
> >> > on the database, but the person who entered it can only access thier
> >> > information?
> >> >
> >> > Also can it be that the person who entered it can not delete it, but
> >> > the
> >> > manager can manipulate all the data?
> >> >
> >> > I have the table done, just not the search aspect of it.
> >> >
> >> > Also if there was a way to just put in everyone that was accessing the
> >> > database could then instead lock down what search aspects were involved
> >> with
> >> > the database then?
> >>
> >>
> >>

>
>
>

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Old 03-Nov-2005, 11:35 AM
Douglas J Steele's Avatar Douglas J Steele
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You should be able to create a query that picks up their Access User Id
(using the CurrentUser function), and only returns the records for that Id,
unless they're in a group that should give them access to all the records.

--
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http://I.Am/DougSteele
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"mattymatt79" wrote in message
news:30A64DA4-1B5B-4C2A-B5B7-F7441424F601@microsoft.com...
> Ok, that makes perfect sense, but would I then have to create a seperate
> query for everyone that would be accessing the data inside the database?

Or
> is there a way to automate this?
>
> Again, thanks for the response all
>
> "Douglas J. Steele" wrote:
>
> > You'd have to use a query to let them get at the data, as opposed to

using
> > the table directly.
> >
> > --
> > Doug Steele, Microsoft Access MVP
> > http://I.Am/DougSteele
> > (no e-mails, please!)
> >
> >
> >
> > "mattymatt79" wrote in message
> > news:635B5792-4700-450A-9544-A34ED79838FA@microsoft.com...
> > > Ok great post and thank you, but I'm still not sure if using the

access
> > > users
> > > and groups would do exactly what I want them to do.
> > >
> > > Example
> > > User A (general user) enters in customer information
> > > User B (general user) enters in customer information
> > >
> > > Wouldn't even with security since they are the exact table go to the

exact
> > > same security setting? Meaning that user A could view user B's
> > > information?
> > >
> > > Also User C (manager) needs to be able to view all info, which is

simple,
> > > I
> > > just make a new group for them, but what about User A and B?
> > >
> > >
> > > "Douglas J Steele" wrote:
> > >
> > >> You can use Access User Level Security to achieve most of what you're
> > >> looking for, but Access doesn't interact with Active Directory:

you'll
> > >> have
> > >> to create new user ids within Access, and the users will have to

maintain
> > >> separate passwords for those new ids.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Doug Steele, Microsoft Access MVP
> > >> http://I.Am/DougSteele
> > >> (no e-mails, please!)
> > >>
> > >>
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=6396
> > >> "mattymatt79" wrote in

message
> > >> news:E013C795-6872-40C6-B27C-F1018A5D439E@microsoft.com...
> > >> > ok,
> > >> > well I have a pretty decent grasp on how access works, and what i

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want
> > >> > to
> > >> do.
> > >> > I have the database pretty much done and the forms completed I just
> > >> > have
> > >> one
> > >> > last thing to accomplish and i dont know how to really finish it

up.
> > >> >
> > >> > Ill explain the situation.
> > >> > I have a database that tracks people and contacting them.
> > >> >
> > >> > Is there a way to lock down who can access what with Active

Directory
> > >> based
> > >> > on thier login?
> > >> >
> > >> > Also, searching, as in say a manager can search all aspects of
> > >> > information
> > >> > on the database, but the person who entered it can only access

thier
> > >> > information?
> > >> >
> > >> > Also can it be that the person who entered it can not delete it,

but
> > >> > the
> > >> > manager can manipulate all the data?
> > >> >
> > >> > I have the table done, just not the search aspect of it.
> > >> >
> > >> > Also if there was a way to just put in everyone that was accessing

the
> > >> > database could then instead lock down what search aspects were

involved
> > >> with
> > >> > the database then?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>

> >
> >
> >



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