
27-Nov-2005, 21:54 PM
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| | | | | Re: Shame on gurdwara ! Gurfateh Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/india/7342-shame-gurdwara-biased-headline-panthic-news.html
Dear Jaspi Ji,
kindly forgive das if any mistake is commtied.
Das just felt the agony of those Sikhs who were not using such things like meat and alchhohal as thier faith yet found them in Gurudwara Sahib.
And as you say it is bad for us to ban such people from Gurudwara Sahib as this will blaock thier way to reform.
Das just wanted to place an idea that can they have differant Gurudwara Sahib for themselve intead of thieir hurting the faiths of others.
This episode reminded das a sorry state in east London where jatt management people who hardly kenw panth organise sports weak realted to Gurpurab and jatts from alover UK and aborad come there and drink intoxiacant and often play with the sancity.
And when people from Damdami Taksal and Akhand Kirtani Jatha wanted to reform them they did not conceded.As our Missionary Class is on the pay role of Jatts so they could do little but supporting them(DDT and AKj people by lip). Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=7342
Das can say that three class of us can make Gurudwaras of thier type where they can have no such non snese and real preaching.
(Das used Jatt term for holigans like Badal or Tohara found in most of the committees and are more after power then Gurmat as Jatt is term use for carefree but here careless people.Das is just repeating that forefathers of das before migrating to Bihar lived in Haryana with Gotras like Solanki which has equvalant in Punjab as virk but Das is Singh only and as per Gurmat does not wants to offend any race or class or caste).
This incidence must give us a lesson and we must think in all direction to how to avoid this in future.Das will appriciate further comments.
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29-Nov-2005, 17:14 PM
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| | | | | | | Re: Shame on gurdwara ! I just want to tell "Eh duniya bahut waddi hai kihnu kihnu sidda karange" i.e, "aap change te jagg changa" Give birth to HUMANITY in urself, then only u can change the WORLD. Means make everybody to be a HUMAN BEING. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=7342
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19-Feb-2010, 15:47 PM
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| | | | | Re: Shame on gurdwara ! I have heard that in certain deras "kali mai" ie opium is a daily ration for sewadars. Is it true? Can somebody throw light on this? | 
20-Feb-2010, 02:07 AM
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| | | | | Re: Shame on gurdwara ! What about 'chatka' at Hazur sahib and among Nihung Dals all over. I have heard from someone that many sewadars at Hazur Sahib freely consume alcohol. Same goes for SGPC gurdwaras. Many Jathedars all well known takers of all kinds of drugs. 'Sukha' is similar to 'alcohol'. | 
20-Feb-2010, 06:44 AM
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| | | | | Re: Shame on gurdwara ! IMHO its even worse BEADBI of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji when a book is installed at Par with Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji..similar Palki, similar paath/ardass/hukmnamahs etc taken from this book....TWO TAKHATS among many other Gurdwaras commit this blasphemy agianst the ONE and ONLY GURU we Sikhs Proclaim..the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. | | The following members appreciate Gyani Jarnail Singh Ji for the above message. | | 
20-Feb-2010, 08:52 AM
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| | | | | Re: Shame on gurdwara ! Sat Sri akal Ji.
It is my opinion like old saying "Mend yourself than mending the whole world"
The entire fault lies with us who elect or go to these people who are making the news.
it is us who go to all kinds of various Granthies to give them courage to guide us or rule us. .
These priest has not got any educations to be better or understanding the communities.
There is to much politics in the Sad Sangat.
We are racist and we are hypocrite among our selves. the love and respect is gone .We use all our name attached with family names which supposed to be only SINGH.
Society will learn by itself. Who is born to blemish or insult the truth.?
Relax and follow Gurbani and look after your family.
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Originally Posted by sachbol I have heard that in certain deras "kali mai" ie opium is a daily ration for sewadars. Is it true? Can somebody throw light on this? | | | The following members appreciate jaspi Ji for the above message. | | 
29-May-2011, 12:51 PM
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| | | | | Re: Shame on gurdwara ! This is shocking news for us in India. Such people should not hang their hands in shame but bury themselves in shame. There should be no committees, the sangat should take over the work in the gurdwaras. If people are really serious about serving the gurdwara they won'.t be fighting for posts. | 
29-May-2011, 17:08 PM
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| | | | | Re: Shame on gurdwara ! This is BS published by Panthic News who are equivalent to Nazi's!!
Leamington Gurdwara have a seperate hall for Parties etc. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=7342
Panthic News are a bunch of Liars and trouble makers. | | The following members appreciate Randip Singh Ji for the above message. | | 
30-May-2011, 16:32 PM
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| | | | | re: Shame on Gurdwara - Biased Headline by Panthic News ! "The committee members then started throwing alcohol and meat at the Sangat who where left shocked at what was happening. "
lmho, im sorry, bs or no bs, this version of events is hilarious, all it needs is for one of the sangat to be a sikh vegan, who then complained that veg pakoras should have been thrown instead of chicken
sounds more like a monty python sketch, but I would love to see it acted out in a film, FOODFIGHT!!!!!!! | | The following members appreciate harry haller Ji for the above message. | | 
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