Attack on Sikhi in Punjab

In Mohali yesterday people were protesting and police were arresting the protesters. One Sikh with turban was escorted by police and the officer removed the protester's turban after an instruction to him "do not remove his turban" from a fellow policeman.
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Does this forum consider that a subject of discussion or is it an 'unwritten law' that in Punjab you do not discuss anything controversal?
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the question of yours..is it about this Forum or Punjab ?? Whose law ?? ..written or unwritten ?? who do you want to answer this ??

davinderdhanjal ji

Just as an FYI

SPN servers are in the United States. Some of the leaders of SPN reside in Punjab. Legal liabilities swing both ways. The US can shut us down for failing to abide by laws governing the Internet. Punjab cannot shut down our servers, but they can put some of our leadership in jail, for hurting religious sentiments, without bail, and lose the keys. So I second Gyani ji's response to you, and would be happy to clarify if I can. Please be specific.
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You are BTW free to post on the Mohali events. As long as TOS is not violated there should be no problem.

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However anyone representing SPN as a forum admin or leader, even those residing outside of India, is not free to post at will, on each and every topic of controversy, without prior discussion with other leaders.

I don't see Mohali is one of those topics where anyone would land in jail for expressing an opinion here at SPN. So basically I am not sure exactly what your concerns are.

AISSF demands Punjab CM's resignation over desecration of Sikh turban by Punjab Police in Mohali
Punjab Newsline Network

Wednesday, 30 March 2011

CHANDIGARH: All India Sikh Students Federation (AISSF) demanded resignation from Parkash Singh Badal over the disturbing incident in Mohali, state of Punjab ruled by Akali Dal (Badal) in which a young Sikh man’s turban was forcibly removed in broad day light by a police officer on the orders of another senior officer of Punjab Police.

According to Karnail Singh Peermohammad, President AISSF, Mohali incident proves that SAD (Badal) have not only failed to protect the dignity of Sikh articles of faith but they are also engaged in intentional desecration of Sikh turban.

The incident took place on March 28, 2011 when pharmacists from Punjab exercising their fundamental right gathered in Mohali for a peaceful sit-in to high light their demands. Punjab police on the orders of Badal Government first cane charged the gathering in which women were beaten mercilessly by Punjab Police. Not satisfied after beating the women, senior officers of Punjab Police then ordered the police to forcibly remove turbans of Sikhs who were present in the gathering. A footage with audio and video clearly showing a Sikh police officer order another police officer to forcibly remove a Sikh’s turban has emerged.

According to Peermohammad, forcibly removing the turban of a Sikh by the Punjab Police is insult of Sikh religion and Parkash Singh Badal as head of Punjab Government should take the legal and moral responsibility of Punjab Police’s action and should resign. The current SGPC leadership which propagates itself to be protector of Sikh rights and has met foreign governments over the issue of turban frisking should also resign from their seats for maintaining criminal silence over the outrageous desecration of Sikh religious symbol by Punjab Police, added Peermohammad.

AISSF appealed all Panthic Parties to meet on April 14, 2011 to chalk out a unanimous plan to protect the dignity and respect of Sikh articles of faith which is under by present Punjab government with the connivance of SGPC.
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source: http://www.punjabnewsline.com/conten...e-mohali/29924

It is still not clear what was the intention of the first cop (turbaned one). And I was wondering. In the film 'Patiala House' somehow the family shown in the film could live with dignity in London (and I guess it kind of reflects the state of Sikhs in London). But here in India we are still being ill-treated. And sad part is that no Sikh stands up anywhere in India against such actions.

Police officers ( SPD Pritam Singh & SHO Kulbhushan ) involved in this case suspended! Sikh organizations demand they be fired!

Latest in the ongoing developments.

SP, SHO suspended for "involvement" in turban removal
PTI | 09:03 PM,Mar 30,2011

Chandigarh, Mar 30 (PTI) The Punjab government today ordered suspension of a Superintendent of Police and an SHO, allegedly involved in forcibly removing turban of a Sikh in Mohali during a protest. Deputy Chief Minister Sukhbir Singh Badal who also holds the Home portfolio, also ordered an magisterial inquiry into the incident. The Home Minister also issued a stern warning that the government will take stern action against anyone found guilty of showing disrespect to turban or any religious symbol of the Sikhs or other communities. "There is absolutely zero tolerance of any such act of this nature committed by anyone, regardless of the position held by the guilty. No one will be spared in this regard," he said. Badal directed the state DGP to ensure complete compliance of government orders in this regard. The incident took place on March 28 when pharmacists from Punjab were staging a protest near Punjab Cricket Association stadium and were cane-charged by police to disperse them.
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http://ibnlive.in.com/generalnewsfee...al/630248.html

As usual the mouths of the biggest "chamchas" of Badals: Akal Takht Jathedar & SGPC President, are sealed shut on this serious matter! Yet they claim that they represent & protect the religious / spiritual values of the Sikhs around the world! SHAME ON BOTH OF THEM. What a SAD affair!


Terrorist tag for Punjab Police demanded after turban incident

2011-03-31 05:30:00 - SIFY NEWS

New York, March 30 (IANS): A Sikh advocacy group has urged the US and Canada to declare Punjab Police a 'terrorist organization' after its treatment of protesting pharmacists in Mohali Monday.
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In a statement here, Sikh for Justice said when pharmacists from Punjab were exercising their fundamental right in Mohali by staging a peaceful sit-in to highlight their demands a Sikh man's turban was forcibly removed by a police officer on the orders of another senior officer of Punjab Police.

'The incident proves that the (Shiromani Akali Dal) SAD (Badal) have not only failed to protect the dignity of Sikh articles of faith but they are also engaged in intentional desecration of the Sikh turban,'' the statement said.

It alleged that Punjab Police 'on the orders of Badal Government first cane-charged the gathering in which women were beaten mercilessly by Punjab Police. Not satisfied after beating the women, senior officers of Punjab Police then ordered the police to forcibly remove turbans of Sikhs who were present in the gathering.

'Footage with audio and video clearly showing a Sikh police officer order another police officer to forcibly remove a Sikh's turban has emerged.''

Gurpatwant Singh Pannun, legal advisor for the SJF forcibly, said forcibly removing the turban of a Sikh is 'the worst form of religious persecution and violation of Sikh human rights, especially when it takes place in Punjab, the homeland of Sikhs under the government headed by a Sikh.''

The Sikh body said it will 'approach the governments of the United States, Canada and European Union to declare Punjab Police as a 'terrorist organization' for the recent incidents of torture in custody, extra judicial killings and blatant desecration of Sikh articles of faith in Mohali.''
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It said it was also considering legal action on the matter.

(Gurmukh Singh can be contacted at gurmukh.s@ians.in)

source: http://www.sify.com/news/terrorist-t...4nkiaedea.html

The question is related to ‘State of Sikhi today’ and requires input from anyone with the knowledge to help to pose the suitable question and then possibly solve it if possible.
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What is reported may not be the underlying problem.
I have a very recent example, a company asked me to come up with a design of an instrument (on phone and information sent to my office) – I forwarded a few solutions – however on reviewing the implementation of the design on their computer system they showed me where it was to fit in the final customer’s concept. The design request had been taken out of context and the solutions did not address the problem although my customer was happy with the solution.
So the problem has to be correctly posed to find the right solution.
Similarly, I think, the problem of the turban in this case will suspend the culprit for a few days till the fire dies down and resurrect the said policemen. The authorities will say your problems have been addressed.
The real issue lies elsewhere and deeper.
Dr. Sukhpreet Singh Udhoke addresses historical aspects which sheds light on the main issue see link below (from sikhphilophy.net). I think a full feature film of this would help.
May I try to pose some questions that may prompt to some input?
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• In the turban case why is the police being responsible to the Punjab Government? Are they not the upholders of the law? If the government breaks the law police can reprimand them as they can an ordinary person! If prosecution of the officers concerned takes place and then work up the chain we should see the broken links.
• Still on Law Mr. Mitta and Mr. Phoolka’s book ‘When a tree shook Delhi’ goes through endless court cases to find and sentence the culprits of 1984 carnage but the Judges presented with a predefined judgement totally irrelevant to the evidence presented! Judiciary is not impartial and has no morality – is it paid by politicians or business people? People like Khalara and now amritdhari Sikhs are being killed – no action is being taken – SGPC and Akal Takhat – anything you can do?
• SGPC is led by a politician who has not helped Sikhs in all the time in power. If Akal Takhat can punish some Sikhs for attending non Sikh functions why can they not punish the leaders who are destroying Sikhi? And who is responsible for all the factions that splintered from Sikhi of Guru Nanak and Gobind Singh?
• If Sikh contribution to Indian independence was 70%+ whey does the majority of Indian state machine corrupting Sikh scriptures and trying to get rid of Sikhs? As a spoilt child ‘I am not going to do anything and not let anyone else do it either’ in this case even destroy what has already been constructed with lot of hardship and bloodshed!
• If both parties are perpetrators of ill will towards Sikhs – why is there not a third party – even communism (they showed even handedness in the 1984 police blindness).

These are all related and contributors to the state of Sikhi today – however there are obviously more questions and can possibly be surmised into one?