
29-Aug-2009, 08:23 AM
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| | | | | Re: Rana Caste Quote:
Originally Posted by AusDesi So is the language the difference between "Bhappe" and other sikhs? | I am a jatt and have mixed around with everyone else...i found the bhappas much more into SIKHEE - very few of them discard the dastaar and all.compared to the "Jatts" who are now about 80% monas...so it may be jealousy on the part of the Jatts..certainly the bhappas in this regions (SEA) talk the same as us....jatt, chimbeh, mazhbis, kamboj and the rest..whatever..we are all SIKHS and we meet in the Gurdawra..we talk the same language..
The Bhappa Gurdwaras are better run and managed..MUCH MUCH more Gurbani parchaar anyway..Jatts fight too much to take over and keep control of their Gurdawaras....bhappas on the other hand have their Grand Offices... own businesses/servants/factory workers etc.....so there is less "need" to sit in a Gurdwara Office and Lord it over the Granthi...!! a typical Jatt has to lord it on the Granthi because at home he is probabaly not even allowed to lord it over the wife/kids...so they FIGHT to the "DEATH" to remain Gurdawara Pardhaan sakatar etc..he he he
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29-Aug-2009, 08:43 AM
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| | | | | Re: Rana Caste I visited the Bhapa page on Utube from which this video was taken...and saw that this is part of a vicious campaign to malign the bhappas..same screenshots in most of the videos..but the wordings are clearly casteist/racist and highly offensive.
Not funny at all...attempt to Divide and Rule...cause rifts among SIKHS based on caste.. | 
29-Aug-2009, 09:42 AM
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| | | | | Re: Rana Caste After watching that video i think i've seen mockery of the bhappe in the 'chacha chattar singh' videos. | | The following member appreciates AusDesi Ji for the above message. | | 
29-Aug-2009, 17:10 PM
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| | | | Re: Rana Caste Quote:
Originally Posted by Gyani Jarnail Singh I visited the Bhapa page on Utube from which this video was taken...and saw that this is part of a vicious campaign to malign the bhappas..same screenshots in most of the videos..but the wordings are clearly casteist/racist and highly offensive.
Not funny at all...attempt to Divide and Rule...cause rifts among SIKHS based on caste..  | Are Bhappa's Khatri?
If they are Khatri then would not Guru's be classed Bhappa too?
Are they not maligning our Guru's?
My impression is they are trying to malign the Sikh saroop generally. | 
29-Aug-2009, 19:27 PM
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Originally Posted by randip singh Are Bhappa's Khatri?
If they are Khatri then would not Guru's be classed Bhappa too?
Are they not maligning our Guru's?
My impression is they are trying to malign the Sikh saroop generally. | Randip Ji..you....Hit the nail square on its head...
This is NOT a Random thing..imho its a consistent and planned attack on SikhI Sroop by targetting the bhappas..Jattas are already targetted thru the "films" which show them in very bad light..always fighting, murdering over a piece fo land, raping pillaging and using very bad langauage and drinking womansiing..etc EACH and EVERY so called Jatt film is like this Vulgar and Rowdy. So next villify the Bhappas ( and YES our Gurus were all Bhappas as they were Khatrees) so two birds with one stone...are being killed thru these videos.. | | The following member appreciates Gyani Jarnail Singh Ji for the above message. | | 
29-Aug-2009, 20:02 PM
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| | | | | Re: Rana Caste So I guessed right. Bhappas are Pakistani sikhs or sikhs who lived in Western Punjab. We have Khatri sikhs in Faridabad. They speak multani as their mother tongue. Even in their gurudwaras the songs etc are in multani unless they are taken straight from Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.
However, in all my life i don't remember calling them Bhappe or anything like that. | 
30-Aug-2009, 00:46 AM
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| | | | Re: Rana Caste Quote:
Originally Posted by Gyani Jarnail Singh Randip Ji..you....Hit the nail square on its head...
This is NOT a Random thing..imho its a consistent and planned attack on SikhI Sroop by targetting the bhappas..Jattas are already targetted thru the "films" which show them in very bad light..always fighting, murdering over a piece fo land, raping pillaging and using very bad langauage and drinking womansiing..etc EACH and EVERY so called Jatt film is like this Vulgar and Rowdy. So next villify the Bhappas ( and YES our Gurus were all Bhappas as they were Khatrees) so two birds with one stone...are being killed thru these videos.. | I get it now.
The virtues of a Sikh i.e. Sant siphahi are being attacked.
Sant - Bhappa/urban are attacked because they empitomise intelligence in Sikhi.
Siphahi - Jatt/rural are attacked because they represent honesty and bravery in Sikhi.
Attack the stereo types and destroy Sikhi.
this IS sinister. | | The following members appreciate Randip Singh Ji for the above message. | | 
29-Dec-2010, 09:38 AM
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| | | | | Re: Rana Caste SS AKAL to all .
It is amazing many members jumped on their research to find about which cast Rana belongs to. Also some one is curious to know if his cast Rana is superior than the others
Most of these people keep on adapting new cast names than previously held by their for fathers simply to improve their social images to emerge in society to have easy going social status..
Is there any high class . Yes it all depends on one's personal deeds.Man is know for his deeds not by birth in higher class.
To be called Sikh one must get rid of cast system and follow fundamenatl foundations laid by Guru Nanak Dev ji and Guru Gobind Singh ji who created 5 Piare who were all from lowers cast .
Not a single so called higher cast people came forward to Guru Gobnidh Singh Ji's call to have one head to sacrifice stayed under the the tent but ran away like a cowered who are making much more noises of their high cast in today's society. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/india/23318-rana-caste.htmlReference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=23318
Man is known by his deeds not by birth.
Obviously if one believe in cast system is not respecting Sikh beliefs and teaching of of Guru Nanak Dev Ji who out right denounced cast system as HIS first step.
I appreciate if all members to post their comments to create more awareness of our beliefs.
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29-Dec-2010, 11:12 AM
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| | | | | Re: Rana Caste jaspi ji
This is exactly what we should take to our hears. Quote:
Man is known by his deeds not by birth.
Obviously if one believe in cast system is not respecting Sikh beliefs and teaching of of Guru Nanak Dev Ji who out right denounced cast system as HIS first step.
I appreciate if all members to post their comments to create more awareness of our beliefs.
| But there is one problem, and it is not a small problem. Even though Sikhs should renounce, even though Guru Nanak renounced, caste -- what do we see. The media, aided and abetted by unfriendly factions of society, continue to promote caste labels for Sikhs. And they do it to undermine Sikhi. How does one put a stop to that? I am sure it can be done, however, these are prejudices that run wide and deep through society. | | The following members appreciate spnadmin Ji for the above message. | | 
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