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Old 27-May-2006, 03:49 AM
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I was wondering, does sikhism say anything about the End of the world? Or what will happen, when it occurs etc? I know in Hinduism it talks about Kali Yuga where people forget the Vedas and man begins killing man. Does sikhism have any similar belief?
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Versus, no offence but something tells me you do not understand god as much. There is alot to learn. My suggestion is that you see websites on near death experiences. Sikhism is way to complicated if you havent the knowledge of what god is. This is the physical life. We humans are already immortal, our souls belong to the spirit and the spirit is one with god. This is merly a dream. The main two religions in this world are love and fear. Our souls are in a cycle of birth and death through different life forms. For example, it could go into many creatures of the earth. God loves us all, and the only reason he tends to do this is so that our soul learns from each experience and grows. God loves us and wants us to realise him. The end of the world will be when god wishes it to be end of the world. The end of the world would be when everyone realises god in their heart.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/history-of-sikhism/8838-end-of-world.html

Now tell me something versus, do you know what god is? We definatly dont know what god looks like, but god is and always will be there and is already here for you. God only accepts love for him and people. If you want god just because your not satisfied with something and you want it for yourself then you wont find god. But this lief experience is exciting and you wil leventually fall in love with god according to your life experiences.
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Versus, no offence but something tells me you do not understand god...
Haha...who does?

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Lol. Sorry Max and Sorry god if i have offended anyone. Sorry if i have been ignorant. My apologies, i shouldnt say that you dont understand god, because we dont know what waheguru ji's attentions are, but im trying to say, from what it is written in the guru granth sahib ji, this world is physical, and im not sure about this but..the end of the world is when people realise god and have enough love for him. This life is to build on the souls!
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and the world will continue, with waheguru ji's will and attention....

by the way max like your display picture but doesnt beat solid snake of metal gear LOLZ

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Lol. Sorry Max and Sorry god if i have offended anyone. Sorry if i have been ignorant. My apologies, i shouldnt say that you dont understand god, because we dont know what waheguru ji's attentions are, but im trying to say, from what it is written in the guru granth sahib ji, this world is physical, and im not sure about this but..the end of the world is when people realise god and have enough love for him. This life is to build on the souls!
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This is the only truth. 'Physical', 'spiritual'...these are human names given to aspects of the universe of which we have only a limited experience.

To the Greater Force, these things are all as one, as they are all within Him.

God has no "intentions", for God is not a human.

God has no "desires", for God is not a human.

God has no "hatred" or "wrath" or "judgement", for God is not a mere human.

He has no need for these human concepts of 'love', 'retribution', or 'will'.

He is all that is and he is all that ever will be.

He is the One.

Know him only as such.

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and the world will continue, with waheguru ji's will and attention....
We use the word "will" when talking of God...but this is nothing more than a poetic metaphor attempting to articulate a concept that no human mind can grasp. Even the First Master could not articulate it. He could only experience it...and then attempt to describe that experience in poetic form.

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Hehe...it's the eyes. The eyes remind me of my own :)
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Dear friends, as you all know I have a great respect for Sikhism and never wish to offend any of the devout.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=8838
So please treat my comments not as sarcasm or disrespectful but as they are meant to be an honest appraisal of my subjective view.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=8838
Indeed each of us that post a comment is posting by and large just their subjective view.


It never ceases to amaze me how in all religions those that believe try to discredit the views of those that question with such retorts as...
“ You do not understand the deep things, “ or “You need to study holy writings”. Or such assertions as “God is this or is not that” etc etc.

All religions believe that their particular brand of belief is the correct one and their brand of god is the true one.

Please you cannot say that God is...

Dear Max314 you make this statement: “Haha...who does?”



Then make this statement:

God has no "intentions", for God is not a human.

God has no "desires", for God is not a human.

God has no "hatred" or "wrath" or "judgement", for God is not a mere human.

He has no need for these human concepts of 'love', 'retribution', or 'will'.

He is all that is and he is all that ever will be.”



You can only perceive that the nature of the divine being must be different than our own.

While I would readily accept that Sikhism is one of the noblest beliefs I feel that all religions are prisoners to restricted myopic visions of what that religion teaches as dogma.
Twenty people with twenty different religions, all would dispute the others understanding of what god is, and is not!

Best wishes
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What will happen on 666? Some say the world will end (Christians) Be nice to see the beast i think.
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lol 666 has gone already!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Dear friends, as you all know I have a great respect for Sikhism and never wish to offend any of the devout.
So please treat my comments not as sarcasm or disrespectful but as they are meant to be an honest appraisal of my subjective view.
Indeed each of us that post a comment is posting by and large just their subjective view.


It never ceases to amaze me how in all religions those that believe try to discredit the views of those that question with such retorts as...
“ You do not understand the deep things, “ or “You need to study holy writings”. Or such assertions as “God is this or is not that” etc etc.

All religions believe that their particular brand of belief is the correct one and their brand of god is the true one.

Please you cannot say that God is...

Dear Max314 you make this statement: “Haha...who does?”



Then make this statement:

God has no "intentions", for God is not a human.

God has no "desires", for God is not a human.

God has no "hatred" or "wrath" or "judgement", for God is not a mere human.

He has no need for these human concepts of 'love', 'retribution', or 'will'.

He is all that is and he is all that ever will be.”



You can only perceive that the nature of the divine being must be different than our own.

While I would readily accept that Sikhism is one of the noblest beliefs I feel that all religions are prisoners to restricted myopic visions of what that religion teaches as dogma.
Twenty people with twenty different religions, all would dispute the others understanding of what god is, and is not!

Best wishes
Daer sir,

Thanks for asking very good question.

As our God lives in nature and beyond and not in any partucular place but in all place so when we say that God has no desire,intentions etc. what we mean here is that not any particular.

As God is in all,and as per Paslms Eveything belog to God,so all intentions,desires etc,which we have are not ours but of God.

thats why God is called Sareban(g) Bukta in Japu Sahib that is one who utilses all things.Ie pleaure of sex or meat which we may have is not our feeling but God is having such feeling in us.Just a sort of veiwpoint.
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