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kapii ji ,
Here is another link on the same subject .
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/hinduism/8747-is-sikhism-hinduism.html

Sikh Articles - Sikhism vs. Hinduism
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This is what is fishy about the entire discussion so far. It is an old thread that was started and then just died in 2006. Today for some reason it was revived by kapi ji. Now kapi ji -- you have been claiming on 2 other threads that blatant anti-Hindu attacks are made by 2 authors who are in fact substantial journalists and scholars. Now you are reviving a thread that speaks to long time controversies between Sikhs and hindutva interests who claim that Sikhism is not an independent faith but an off-shoot of Hinduism.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=8747

Rather than get into the pros and cons of this argument with you, i would like to ask this? What is your agenda here at SPN? Is there a reason why i should not think you are trolling? The classic description of trolling is as follows: An old controversy has basically died. New members may not be aware as older members are that the arguments have been vented dozens of times. The troll brings old controversy to life and in doing some manages to ignite trouble. The entire aim of trolling is to lure people with questions that look innocent, but are intended to trap them in a heated argument. The troll sits back and laughs.
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Kapii ji,

Guru Fateh.

You seem a bit agitated for the reasons only known to you. It is ok to disagree and sometimes a must. The only way for you to have an intelligent interaction is to produce your counter arguments, not just gripe about the things.

Allow me to dissect your post so I can understand what you are trying to say.

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I mean think about who the heck cares??? If Hinduism == Sikhism or not??
I do care as a Sikh. Hinduism is as much to do with Sikhism as Judaism to Islam.


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Thing is, in hinduism there were so many shortcomings (Like casteism etc), that is why a new religion popped up (Sikhism). A lot of hindus got attracted towards it.
Casteism is not a shortcoming. That is a very soft word. Casteism is worse than Apartheid that once flourished in South Africa and now what is Zimbabave. So, as a Hindu, do not take this lightly with a shrug. Humanity demands that from you.

Many were attracted to Sikhs NOT because of the caste system only. Please read your own history to find out other factors.

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But at the same time, we hindus ( I am saying "we", coz i am one), were tolerant enough to let another religion come up.
You seem like an articulate person. I am sure you are aware that tolerance breeds disdain and hatred. It is not a good trait to have.

Sikhi teaches acceptance of ALL, no exception. That is why Harmandir Sahib has 4 doors to welcome all and the practical tradition of equality through Langer and Pangat.

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In fact, 99% of sikhs had Hindu ancestors (even more than that). Can you imagine an off-shoot from Islam??? Think about Ahamdeiiyyas, and then answer.
Now, you are contradicting your prior statement of Hindus being tolerant and then coming into the fold of Sikhi. It makes little sense.

I am glad Hindus realised that their own religion was not attracted to them and Sikhi had more to offer than Hindusim.

As mentioned before, if I take your argument then Islam is an off shoot of Judaism and Christianity which is not true either. I have no idea why you are trying to justify something which makes no sense.


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There is no point of comparing two religions. Sikhism is the newest religion and Hinduism the oldest.
One more weak argument coming from someone who has no idea what he is talking about. You are the one who is comparing. That was part of your whole argument. Age has nothing to do with a religion. It is in the value system.

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